Gunner_Mania Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 D-lmR3FZcAo A lot of the posters here are abroad. Do you guys think this song stilll holds true? Or have things changed and the distance between our loved ones become closer due to the Internet and the IT revolution?
Lurker Posted March 19, 2010 Posted March 19, 2010 A lot of the posters here are abroad. Do you guys think this song stilll holds true? Or have things changed and the distance between our loved ones become closer due to the Internet and the IT revolution? Kinda strange to reflect on the song and worry about Internet and IT revolution, no? The song is about distance of course but the inherent theme is letter writing and really how many still follow that? Pahle jab tu khat likhta tha kaagaz mein chehra dikhta tha band hua yeh khel bhi ab to khatam hua ye mel bhi ab to. Sums up the mood of Indian disaspora where the progress has often meant that folks of my generation, and later, have forced their parents to "learn" Internet to read emails, instead of us taking time to write letters. Incidentally isnt it amazing how much time we have to spend on Internet, web, chat etc but not enough to write letters. Rant over. xxx
Gunner_Mania Posted March 19, 2010 Author Posted March 19, 2010 Kinda strange to reflect on the song and worry about Internet and IT revolution, no? The song is about distance of course but the inherent theme is letter writing and really how many still follow that? Pahle jab tu khat likhta tha kaagaz mein chehra dikhta tha band hua yeh khel bhi ab to khatam hua ye mel bhi ab to. Sums up the mood of Indian disaspora where the progress has often meant that folks of my generation, and later, have forced their parents to "learn" Internet to read emails, instead of us taking time to write letters. Incidentally isnt it amazing how much time we have to spend on Internet, web, chat etc but not enough to write letters. Rant over. xxx Absolutely agree. Incidentally was talking to my other half about this song and she said she had never written letters to anybody in life. Me, I was different I made pen-friends writing letters to people from far away. of course those have changed now. Some of those who I use to write letters today just text and call..
punjabi_khota Posted March 20, 2010 Posted March 20, 2010 I don't it is a matter of how long it would take to write a letter as compared to an email (I would guess it would almost the same amount of time..little extra to mail the letter) but rather the time it takes the letter to reach the destination...thats where email wins.
Nova Posted March 20, 2010 Posted March 20, 2010 We don't live in the stone age anymore. Snail mail is only good for Ponting.
Lurker Posted March 21, 2010 Posted March 21, 2010 Absolutely agree. Incidentally was talking to my other half about this song and she said she had never written letters to anybody in life. Me' date= I was different I made pen-friends writing letters to people from far away. of course those have changed now. Some of those who I use to write letters today just text and call.. I am the same kind. Over the years my letter writing has gone down immensly but I have no doubt which medium has worked for me better in terms of expression. Incidentally speaking of songs like up above, if you look deeper into the subject you would see the romanticism attached to letter writing. Almost an entire genre exists. If you want to compile a CD you can easily a list of songs that would be big hits. A few I can rattle from top of my head Phool tumhein bheja hai khat mein, phool nahin mera dil hai. Likhe jo khat tujhe wo tere yaad mein hazaaron rang ke nazare ban gaye Yeh mera prem patra padh ke tum naraaz na hona Daakiya daak laaya khushi ka payaam laaya Sandeshe aate hain You can not help but wonder if this genre is on its last leg today? xxx
Lurker Posted March 21, 2010 Posted March 21, 2010 We don't live in the stone age anymore. Snail mail is only good for Ponting. When someone makes statement like that he has clearly been unlucky enough never to have written much, or receive, letter of importance. Email was always the medium for getting information fast, it was hardly ever about expressing yourself. Letter writing was hardly about getting information fast. People would take time off, and this includes senior leaders/kings/statesman, write a letter expressing their thoughts. Nehru's letters to Indira made best seller book list, his letters to Edwina Mountbatten is the backbone of a movie, Napolean's letters are auctioned, so are Jackie Kennedy, Gandhi. Emails on the other hand degenerated expression part. Think of your office emails and how it lacks basic courtsey(no salutations, no proper flow etc). Heck many of the emails have the content entirely in the subject line. A far cry from days of Rani Karnavati Chinamma of Chittor who had written a letter and send rakhi to Humayun when Bahadur Shah attacked her. Email is all about speed, it always lacked soul..no wonder it is getting replced by myspace, texts and tweets. xxx
DomainK Posted March 21, 2010 Posted March 21, 2010 When someone makes statement like that he has clearly been unlucky enough never to have written much, or receive, letter of importance. Email was always the medium for getting information fast, it was hardly ever about expressing yourself. Letter writing was hardly about getting information fast. People would take time off, and this includes senior leaders/kings/statesman, write a letter expressing their thoughts. Nehru's letters to Indira made best seller book list, his letters to Edwina Mountbatten is the backbone of a movie, Napolean's letters are auctioned, so are Jackie Kennedy, Gandhi. Emails on the other hand degenerated expression part. Think of your office emails and how it lacks basic courtsey(no salutations, no proper flow etc). Heck many of the emails have the content entirely in the subject line. A far cry from days of Rani Karnavati Chinamma of Chittor who had written a letter and send rakhi to Humayun when Bahadur Shah attacked her. Email is all about speed, it always lacked soul..no wonder it is getting replced by myspace, texts and tweets. xxx The next generation wont even understand what you are talking about. Letter writing will be a lost art. Though I never wrote many letters ever, I understand what you are talking about.
punjabiplaya Posted March 21, 2010 Posted March 21, 2010 my daughter was 8 a few weeks ago and got many presents,shes writing thankyou cards n letters to everyone its good if we encourage children to do this and children will start to show more appreciation,i used to write lots before email,but now its so easy to just text or mail or msg via facebook,its free and there in seconds,but to be honest theres nothing like recieving a letter!
DomainK Posted March 21, 2010 Posted March 21, 2010 my daughter was 8 a few weeks ago and got many presents' date='shes writing thankyou cards n letters to everyone its good if we encourage children to do this and children will start to show more appreciation,i used to write lots before email,but now its so easy to just text or mail or msg via facebook,its free and there in seconds,but to be honest theres nothing like recieving a letter![/quote'] Good that you are teaching that to your daughter. Not too long ago I had to write a few paragraphs by hand and I realized how bad my hand writing had become. Then I realized that I could not remember when I wrote anything more than half a page by hand. The computer and the keyboard have taken over. Pen and paper are used for signatures and the occasional notes taken in a meeting. I also had opened a thread in ICF on that and we had some discussions about the art of letter writing. Will our future generation learn the art of letter writing or of fine hand writing?
Gunner_Mania Posted March 21, 2010 Author Posted March 21, 2010 Will our future generation learn the art of letter writing or of fine hand writing? The way we are going, I wonder if they will learn writing at all, what with Note books as we knew them replaced by notebooks, tablets and iPads in schools over the next few years or so..
Nova Posted March 21, 2010 Posted March 21, 2010 @ Lurker I agree with what you are saying (to some extent) but we have to move with the times. We are living in a digital world now. Snail mail in the past was a necessity as emails today are a necessity. No one is saying that one cannot write proper emails with salutation and punctuations. I still do. The art of "letter" writing can be taken up as a hobby if someone wishes to do so. It's like taking photographs with your digital camera and viewing them on the computer without printing any of them. People will still print and frame their favorite photos and display it like art. However that is changing too...as technology improves. The transition to the digital era is nostalgic for people who have seen the best of both worlds...but the adoption of newer technologies comes natural to the younger generation. In fact we are moving towards a more paperless society. Content is subjective and depends on how well we create information. Let's not blame the medium.
maverick.rules Posted March 21, 2010 Posted March 21, 2010 D-lmR3FZcAo A lot of the posters here are abroad. Do you guys think this song stilll holds true? Or have things changed and the distance between our loved ones become closer due to the Internet and the IT revolution? This song makes me think once again about the trade-off that I am doing between career and family back home... this song never fails to make someone feel nostalgic. Its true that we can talk to our family or see them on webcam etc much more easily than before, but does it reduce the feeling that you are not back home... no it does not. :(( BTW I am new to this forum and a big sachin fan... To the mods, you got a real good forum running here congrats... do you have any introduction thread??? Thanks...
Gunner_Mania Posted March 21, 2010 Author Posted March 21, 2010 BTW I am new to this forum and a big sachin fan... To the mods, you got a real good forum running here congrats... do you have any introduction thread??? Thanks... Welcome Maverick. Hope you have a good time around here.Yes there is an intro thread http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=33861
devla Posted March 21, 2010 Posted March 21, 2010 Somehow the thread got hijacked by the snail-mail vs e-mail debate. To me, the song is still as relevant as it was when the movie came out. For ones that have left the motherland, there's at least one, if not more situations in the song that rings true. If nothing else - Tune Paisa bahaut kamaya Is paise ne desh chhu(d)aya Desh paraya chho(d) ke aajaa Panchi Pinjara tod ke aaja Aaja - Umr bahut hai chhoti Apne ghar mein bhi hai roti
Nova Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 ^ It's ok to feel nostalgic but not like the Dhobi ka kutta..na ghar ka na ghaat ka?
Clarke Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 Its human nature to fantasize about things that get antiquated or lose importance in a modern society. You would find writers scoff at air travel and talk of the romance in a rail journey in its nascent times, particularly the era of the steam engines. Same with those old records as opposed to modern mp3/itunes. A rolls royce silver ghost is more beautiful than the modern day aston martin to some. Nostalgia comes in the genes i guess.
Nova Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 ^ I agree...the future generations will feel nostalgic about how they used to email and tweet. The next revolution is always on the horizon.
maverick.rules Posted March 22, 2010 Posted March 22, 2010 Welcome Maverick. Hope you have a good time around here.Yes there is an intro thread Thanks Gunner
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