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India is launching a new census in which every person aged over 15 will be photographed and fingerprinted to create a biometric national database. The government will then use the information to issue identity cards. Officials will spend a year classifying India's population of around 1.2 billion people according to gender, religion, occupation and education. The exercise, conducted every 10 years, faces big challenges, not least India's vast area and diversity of cultures. Census officials must also contend with high levels of illiteracy and millions of homeless people - as well as insurgencies by Maoists and other rebels which have left large parts of the country unsafe. President Pratibha Patil was the first person to be listed, and appealed to fellow Indians to follow her example "for the good of the nation". "Everyone must participate and make it successful," she said in Delhi. 'Unstoppable' This is India's 15th census and the first time a biometric element has been included. "India has been conducting a national census since 1872," the man leading the exercise C Chandramouli told the AFP news agency. "Nothing - floods, droughts, even wars - has been able to stop it. "The trick is to get things right the first time. There is no question of a re-census." Over the next year, some 2.5 million census officials will visit households in more than 7,000 towns and 600,000 villages. The officials, many of them teachers and local officials, will first begin the process of house listing - which records information on homes. This count will, for the first time, also attempt to gather information on the use of the internet and the availability of drinking water and toilets in households. The physical count of residents will take place from 9-28 February 2011. The mammoth registration exercise will stretch over 11 months, consume more than 11 million tonnes of paper, and cost 60bn rupees ($1.3bn; £880m). India's Home Minister, P Chidambaram, has described the process as the biggest of its kind in human history. "An exercise of this kind has not been attempted anywhere else in the world," he told reporters in the capital. The national census is the only source of primary and credible data in India and is used not just to formulate government policies but also by private companies to identify markets for their products, says the BBC's Sanjoy Majumder in Delhi. The first 16-digit identity numbers are due to be issued starting in November. The full census results will be released in mid-2011. The collation of biometric information on a national database raises questions about possible infringement of civil liberties in the future. BBC correspondents say many Indians appear to support the new ID cards, believing they will make it easier to receive things like state benefits and remove the current need for multiple personal documents. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/8598159.stm Looks a difficult project to do something like this in India.

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It's a very good plan ... and it wud be a great thing for nation security :clap: Problem is the rural areas ...

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As we await the results of the 1872 census, we are proud to announce this initiative. :isalute:

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As we await the results of the 1872 census' date=' we are proud to announce this initiative. :isalute:[/quote'] Have the figures from previous census' not been released? :cantstop:
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Have the figures from previous census' not been released? :cantstop:
Who knows, they probably lost count somewhere and published figures on an ad hoc basis. There are always revisions and revisions to revisions. :cantstop::cantstop:
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We desperately need such a system in place. It should be made mandatory for everyone to carry this ID with them, wherever they go. The 1.2 billion number may sound daunting, but it is not as unsurmountable as it sounds.

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I bet people are already scheming on how to abuse this system. I see this being a disaster in a country like India where people can bribe and get their way with anything, especially in government. Kudos to those who started this initiative and would love for it to work, but not sure it will.

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I bet people are already scheming on how to abuse this system. I see this being a disaster in a country like India where people can bribe and get their way with anything, especially in government. Kudos to those who started this initiative and would love for it to work, but not sure it will.
I don't want to boast about predicting future correctly always, but I had proposed ID Card System for India more than 5 years ago. My idea was shot down (on the forums, not this one) -- oh it is not possible in India and blah blah and blah. My response was -- whether it is possible or not, India needs it. There is no option for India. It might take a long time to implement it perfectly, but it has to be started. Guess what -- it started which will cost about 30% more than what it would have 5 years ago. :winky: Oh well, better late than never.
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I don't want to boast about predicting future correctly always, but I had proposed ID Card System for India more than 5 years ago. My idea was shot down (on the forums, not this one) -- oh it is not possible in India and blah blah and blah. My response was -- whether it is possible or not, India needs it. There is no option for India. It might take a long time to implement it perfectly, but it has to be started. Guess what -- it started which will cost about 30% more than what it would have 5 years ago. :winky: Oh well, better late than never.
I would agree with you on this .. we have been holding things back for a long time thinking that whether it would be successful or not .. but by holding these important steps for so many years we have also been holding back uniform growth in India .. yes it might not be perfect success and we all agree but if we do not start it then we will anyways be lagging behind .. I am also concerned but at the same time I am also happy about these few things as it would help in uniform development .. maybe it might not be 100% effective but at least it will be much more than the present 0%
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I would agree with you on this .. we have been holding things back for a long time thinking that whether it would be successful or not .. but by holding these important steps for so many years we have also been holding back uniform growth in India .. yes it might not be perfect success and we all agree but if we do not start it then we will anyways be lagging behind .. I am also concerned but at the same time I am also happy about these few things as it would help in uniform development .. maybe it might not be 100% effective but at least it will be much more than the present 0%
It will work perfectly, It will - Mark My Words. Yeah it might not happen tomorrow but it will 15 years down the road. Eventually what you do is Link Up eveyrhting you want to do -- to ths ID Card and people will get it. You want a LPG Cylinder -- get the card. You want a drivers License -- get the card You want a Train Reservation -- get the card. You want a bank account -- get the card. Literally starve people to death if they dont have a card -- and guess what they will get it. I am excited because this will reduce the meance of terrorism in our country. That in itself is the single biggest reason we need this ID Card System.
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It will work perfectly, It will - Mark My Words. Yeah it might not happen tomorrow but it will 15 years down the road. Eventually what you do is Link Up eveyrhting you want to do -- to ths ID Card and people will get it. You want a LPG Cylinder -- get the card. You want a drivers License -- get the card You want a Train Reservation -- get the card. You want a bank account -- get the card. Literally starve people to death if they dont have a card -- and guess what they will get it. I am excited because this will reduce the meance of terrorism in our country. That in itself is the single biggest reason we need this ID Card System.
I agree and I have been excited with this UIDAI project ever since it was first given to a great mind like Nilekani. I agree that it should be interlinked with everything so that people are forced to take this card and it would help in both terrorism as well as uniform growth of the country. One of my dreams after India implements this project properly is to remove the present quota system based on ST/SC etc. and instead replace with quota based on poverty. I am not sure if any govt. has the balls to remove the present crap quota system which hardly makes sense and replace it with a sensible quota system based on economic conditions but that surely would have helped a lot in India's uniform growth and that is easily possible after UIDAI is implemented properly as the card will also give details of the economic condition of the family. One thing I dont want the card to so is to make it exactly like the SSN in US. In US, when you run a SSN check your credit score decreases and so people are not comfortable giving out their SSN. I dont want the credit score to decrease in India too because otherwise people would not use their UIDAI cards properly.
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