Breaking News: Will Gary Kirsten be sacked? Players involved in brawl get BCCI notice

[hari504504]

1. pace bowlers ( our reserves are terrible) 2. Spin bowling ( here is a major contention but as we saw there is no guaratee bhajji who was aso good in the ipl ended wicketless thats inexcusable given that he was our strike bowler) 3. as far as dropping unfit seniors we all can imagine what the reaction would have been if noobs had lost out. 4. batting well yes the short ball is a problem but instead of blaming selction one should blame not doing enough to root out this error with current crop of batsman. As well as Robin, Pandey and the likes have done in the IPL/ Domestic i don't think there is over whelming evidence to point that they could rip open pace attacks with their hooks and pulls

1. Where do you think we're going to dig-out fast bowlers from ? ....What you saw is really what we have . 2. Stop mkaing Bhajji a scapegoat...no lone ranger spinner can decimate an opposition single handedly... rarely at this level of cricket.. It is easier for sides to see-out one good bowler when they know they have 16 overs of unadulterated crap coming their way. 3. We need to put the cricketers through a militiary boot camp... I'm sure the IMA will oblige.. 4. That is just a theory..who knows what would've happened if they really played in Bridgetown -would they have been any better than the current "deer caught in the headlights" type of batsmen we have when it comes to pace bowling ? ...change is needed from the ground-up in the our domestic structure..no point playing musical chair with the same players like our nieghbour 3.

[Jadoo]

Why?

Becuase these guys are idolised back home by kids, they are followed around the world by it's supporters who spend the hard earned cash to watch them represent their country. The least these fans can ask for is that when they country has just been humiliated in this tourny that the players show respect and remorse for playing crap. Not drinking and dancing like they could not give a sh*t that they have just been comprehensively outclassed. I remember a couple of years ago players from a premiership football club went out drinking and partying after having lost a cup final, they were humiliated in the papers the next day and club fined all the players. Thats just a club team, I couldn't even imagine what someone like the English Football Association would do to it's players if they behaved in such a manner after a world cup exit in the first round.

[Pak_Fan_4_Eva]

How is Shoaib related to all this? This is a sick time to be funny' date=' man :headshake:[/quote'] http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=221846

[achilles]

They should not venture out. A columbian goal keeper who made a self-goal in a WC match (in 1994) was killed the same day. These players have come out alive. Any other place' date=' a disgruntled fan who has lost money on the team can take it personally. It's not a gentleman's game anymore.[/quote'] Yes. Dimwits. They could've considered reserving the place for themselves, which is the standard norm when Aussies, Poms, Saffers come to play in India.

[Andy]

Becuase these guys are idolised back home by kids, they are followed around the world by it's supporters who spend the hard earned cash to watch them represent their country. The least these fans can ask for is that when they country has just been humiliated in this tourny that the players show respect and remorse for playing crap. Not drinking and dancing like they could not give a sh*t that they have just been comprehensively outclassed. I remember a couple of years ago players from a premiership football club went out drinking and partying after having lost a cup final, they were humiliated in the papers the next day and club fined all the players. Thats just a club team, I couldn't even imagine what someone like the English Football Association would do to it's players if they behaved in such a manner after a world cup exit in the first round.

+++++ This is the worst thing hapened to our cricket after being no 1 in tests and no 2 in ODI's. I would rather have Kirsten in the ranks rather having these Jackass failing every major time.

[someone]

I do not understand how our opinion is based on We want our players to learn from Australia how to play cricket, how to bowl fast. But do we know, they also party a lot prob more than us Indians. So blaming parties are inexcusable. But put it what is the difference between India and Australia, it is training which involves gym work and a burning passion for team. We atm do not players who are willing to dive to stop the ball as their pretty? faces will have a scratch like Mr.Yuvi

[EnterTheVoid]

Becuase these guys are idolised back home by kids, they are followed around the world by it's supporters who spend the hard earned cash to watch them represent their country. The least these fans can ask for is that when they country has just been humiliated in this tourny that the players show respect and remorse for playing crap. Not drinking and dancing like they could not give a sh*t that they have just been comprehensively outclassed. I remember a couple of years ago players from a premiership football club went out drinking and partying after having lost a cup final, they were humiliated in the papers the next day and club fined all the players. Thats just a club team, I couldn't even imagine what someone like the English Football Association would do to it's players if they behaved in such a manner after a world cup exit in the first round.

Or maybe they were drinking / dancing to drown their sorrows ?

[achilles]

http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=221846

Bang on Shoaib :two_thumbs_up:

[achilles]

Does Dhoni have the guts to blame 6 of his players for partying, some which seems to be a bit of an ill for him?

[Jadoo]

Or maybe they were drinking / dancing to drown their sorrows ?

That maybe how they may drown their sorrows, but the average person on the street who works all the hours gods sends him and who's only enjoyment might be to watch his team compete and win is not going to associate drinking and dancing as remorseful behaviour.

[hari504504]

Does Dhoni have the guts to blame 6 of his players for partying' date=' some which seems to be a bit of an ill for him?[/quote'] If Dhoni 'doesn't have the guts' then he should step down . You're not fit to be a captain if you can't rein in your players no matter what their reputation is..

[EnterTheVoid]

That maybe how they may drown their sorrows' date=' but the average person on the street who works all the hours gods sends him and who's only enjoyment might be to watch his team compete and win is not going to associate drinking and dancing as remorseful behaviour.[/quote'] I understand, but they can't change their habits to please everyone.

[f2000560]

. 2. Stop mkaing Bhajji a scapegoat...no lone ranger spinner can decimate an opposition single handedly... rarely at this level of cricket.. It is easier for sides to see-out one good bowler when they know they have 16 overs of unadulterated crap coming their way. 3.

Expectations from him has always been higher. yes there are better spinners around but our strategy was to take ok spinners who ar ebetter bats which has worked ok for in ODI's where they can be used in the middle overs where there is lesser intent to score at a break neck speed. Unfortunately they just weren't upto task in T20's I just hope the board listens to Gary as regards to player fitness and commitment levels and also ishanth i thought coaches have no say in selections but surely they must consulted :dontknow:

[Jadoo]

If Dhoni 'doesn't have the guts' then he should step down . You're not fit to be a captain if you can't rein in your players no matter what their reputation is..

Absolutely agree. One of the major criticism of Dhoni is that he gets to pally and friendly with his teams mates, case example Yuvraj. He needs to remain impartial and have much more of a authoritative manner so that he can scrutinise the players misbehaviours and shortcomings.

[f2000560]

Does Dhoni have the guts to blame 6 of his players for partying' date=' some which seems to be a bit of an ill for him?[/quote'] i don't think partying is an ill well if it is measured and not excessive. australians like to drink as well. Symmonds drinks a lot but have you seen him ! to party and not put requisite attention on other fields/ to party so much that you are not fit or dull the other aspects that is the ill that dhoni is probably alluding to

[achilles]

Absolutely agree. One of the major criticism of Dhoni is that he gets to pally and friendly with his teams mates' date=' case example Yuvraj. He needs to remain [b']impartial and have much more of a authoritative manner so that he can scrutinise the players misbehaviours and shortcomings.

1. Murali Vijay. 2. Raina promoted as Captain over a World Cup winning Virat Kohli.

[Jadoo]

I understand' date=' but they can't change their habits to please everyone.[/quote'] I doubt very much that drinking and dancing is habitual, unless you happen to be Sreesanth. And who would they be pleasing when they remorse by such behaviour apart from themselves?

[achilles]

i don't think partying is an ill well if it is measured and not excessive. australians like to drink as well. Symmonds drinks a lot but have you seen him ! to party and not put requisite attention on other fields/ to party so much that you are not fit or dull the other aspects that is the ill that dhoni is probably alluding to

But clearly, its fine when he's not on the wrong side. He's having a super-sycophant moment. He thinks the best way to get matey with Shashank Manohar and gang is by talking ill about the IPL. I think Dhoni will be a BCCI President someday coz Politics seems to be something he's good at playing.

[Andy]

But clearly, its fine when he's not on the wrong side. He's having a super-sycophant moment. He thinks the best way to get matey with Shashank Manohar and gang is by talking ill about the IPL. I think Dhoni will be a BCCI President someday coz Politics seems to be something he's good at playing.

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[Gunner_Mania]

This is such a disgrace. A bloody disgrace. We are turning into another PCB' date=' are we?[/quote'] Sorry, but why exactly are we turning into PCB? - because a bunch of overpaid udnerpeforming players went out to party and got involved in a brawl after being dumped out of the tournament? The board hasn't sacked the coach for saying the truth are even indicated in that direction yet. That was your view of how things might unfold. How does that make the BCCI like the PCB.