Bradman99 Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 @ Bradman99 : Mate don't you think that Clarke isn't a captaincy material' date=' and given that he came at no.3 instead of sending Mike Hussey who is in tremendous form, even he is capable of nudging the ball for ones and twos.Also why didn't he try David Hussey who isn't the worst bowler in your team, when Watson was leaking runs?[/quote'] I dunno, I think M Hussey would be the ideal captain but he's too old for it.. Clarke is the only real option for the future it seems.. I think he's alright and will get better in time, but yeah him coming in at 3 is not ideal.. My take is Clarke for one day captaincy (in future), White for 20/20 captaincy
Precambrian Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 I dunno, I think M Hussey would be the ideal captain but he's too old for it.. Clarke is the only real option for the future it seems.. I think he's alright and will get better in time, but yeah him coming in at 3 is not ideal.. My take is Clarke for one day captaincy (in future), White for 20/20 captaincy Clarke is not really a good ODI player. I think if Cameron White is given a bit of a lengthy run, he can take up captaincy in both formats.
Bradman99 Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 Clarke is not really a good ODI player. I think if Cameron White is given a bit of a lengthy run' date=' he can take up captaincy in both formats.[/quote'] Yeah, possibly... I don't see Clarke being dropped from ODI's though.. And seeing as though he is almost certainly the next Test captain, that means he'l be one day captain as well.. I like the sounds of White as captain though, I must say.
Temujin Khaghan Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 Yeh I meant test captain :haha: What a ****ing douche, I hate people who go and have tattoos in other languages because they think its cool but jolie is cool.
Temujin Khaghan Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 He needs to play IPL. He will become Michael Jayawardane. forget it. he and mitch aint joining ipl until they win the world t20. they cant stand taking advice from their indian captains about how to play in a 20-20. why else do you think they are staying away till now.
Temujin Khaghan Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 just imagine this australian team with somebody like birt or paine in place of clarke. will be close to impossible to beat!! yes and white as their captain and even symo should play watson warner paine d.hussey white m.hussey symonds mitch tait nannes *some random spinner*
The Outsider Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 forget it. he and mitch aint joining ipl until they win the world t20. they cant stand taking advice from their indian captains about how to play in a 20-20. why else do you think they are staying away till now. To avoid being burnt out and concentrate on real cricket where both have been stellar. Those are the exploits they will be remembered by 20 years from now, not Pathan's cowlashing.
Temujin Khaghan Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 To avoid being burnt out and concentrate on real cricket where both have been stellar. Those are the exploits they will be remembered by 20 years from now' date=' not Pathan's cowlashing.[/quote'] if the real reason they are not playing ipl is coz of avoiding being burnt and not any complex that they have to play under indian players then its awesome...
vvvslaxman Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 I think the mindset has to change for him. But he would rather prefer being a successful Test batsman than a successful T20 batsman. Even below average crappy player like Salman butt can swing the bat blindly and score a few in t20. So shouldn't be a problem for players like Clarke. Just that it will take a while for him to adjust.
Guest Gunner Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 To avoid being burnt out and concentrate on real cricket where both have been stellar. Those are the exploits they will be remembered by 20 years from now' date=' not Pathan's cowlashing.[/quote'] What a player. He finishes with 92 runs in 6 innings @ 15.33 with a strike-rate of 80.70. And took a wicket for 53 runs at 8.83 runs an over You mean stellar like this. :regular_smile:
The Outsider Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 You mean stellar like this. :regular_smile: To avoid being burnt out and concentrate on real cricket where both have been stellar. Those are the exploits they will be remembered by 20 years from now' date= not Pathan's cowlashing.[table=head]|Runs|BatAv|BatSR 2008|1063|50.62|46.64 2009|1042|54.84|55.60 2010|449|74.83|56.62 [/table] Yes :notsmiley: Test Batting Stats by Year
achilles Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 Ridiculous tourney for him. But he's become very humble. Not a hint of arrogance of-late. Got to hand it out to him. :hatsoff:
Guest Gunner Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 Yes :notsmiley: Test Batting Stats by Year http://www.indiancricketfans.com/SS2/stats/cache/stats4bf1571371b7b.png[/float][table=head]|Runs|BatAv|BatSR 2008|1063|50.62|46.64 2009|1042|54.84|55.60 2010|449|74.83|56.62 [/table] Kudos on the irrelevance. Highlighting "real cricket" does not equate it to test cricket. The T20 WC is an authorised ICC event and is as real as it gets. This thread was about T20 cricket and no one questioned Michael clarke's test stats. Let me ask you the corollary to your position, has any Indian batsman's test performance suffered because of IPL? I think not. Would you be kind enough to pull out Viru's stats after he started playing the IPL? :regular_smile:
vvvslaxman Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 We seriously have to stop judging players on T20 form.I understand this thread was started for fun which i have no problem with. But don't take it seriously. Rohit sharma pwned Aussie bowlers on the fast bouncy Barbados wicket. Would that make him the best batsman in the world? Certainly not. You have to take it with a pinch of salt. There is a reason why Warner, Raina are not playing Tests . Probably if Raina were to play for Pakistan he would have been their number 1 Test batsman :cantstop:
achilles Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 We seriously have to stop judging players on T20 form.I understand this thread was started for fun which i have no problem with. But don't take it seriously. Rohit sharma pwned Aussie bowlers on the fast bouncy Barbados wicket. Would that make him the best batsman in the world? Certainly not. You have to take it with a pinch of salt. There is a reason why Warner' date=' Raina are not playing Tests . Probably if Raina were to play for Pakistan he would have been their number 1 Test batsman :cantstop:[/quote'] :hysterical:
The Outsider Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 Kudos on the irrelevance. Highlighting "real cricket" does not equate it to test cricket. The T20 WC is an authorised ICC event and is as real as it gets. This thread was about T20 cricket and no one questioned Michael clarke's test stats. Well, for me it does. It might be authorized by whosoever, it's still a joke format for phunnzzz and stuphhhzzz. Let me ask you the corollary to your position, has any Indian batsman's test performance suffered because of IPL? I think not. Would you be kind enough to pull out Viru's stats after he started playing the IPL? :regular_smile: How is that relevant? A poster asked specifically why Clarke and Johnson are not playing in the IPL, and I gave him the reason as stated by the very players in question rather than dwelling on conspiracy theories like how they don't want to take orders from Indian captains.
Guest Gunner Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 Well, for me it does. It might be authorized by whosoever, it's still a joke format for phunnzzz and stuphhhzzz. How is that relevant? A poster asked specifically why Clarke and Johnson are not playing in the IPL, and I gave him the reason as stated by the very players in question rather than dwelling on conspiracy theories like how they don't want to take orders from Indian captains. 1) @ phunnzzz and stuphhhzzz. oldie :hehe:. 2) Fair enough. Conspiracy theories PS: I am sorry I couldn't keep up a serious discussion any longer than this. Very low attention span, you better find lurker bhai saab.
Temujin Khaghan Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 A poster asked specifically why Clarke and Johnson are not playing in the IPL' date=' and I gave him the reason as stated by the very players in question rather than dwelling on [b']conspiracy theories like how they don't want to take orders from Indian captains. then again u are not their manager. so we cant take ur word on it that clarke and mitch are not playing in the ipl to concentrate on their cricket. for all i know they werent really friendly with indian players during the recent matches... so it also might be possible they might want to go into the ipl as champions.
The Outsider Posted May 17, 2010 Posted May 17, 2010 then again u are not their manager. so we cant take ur word on it that clarke and mitch are not playing in the ipl to concentrate on their cricket. for all i know they werent really friendly with indian players during the recent matches... so it also might be possible they might want to go into the ipl as champions. Whatever rocks your boat, man. Some people also believe 9/11 was a CIA-Jew conspiracy and Mumbai attacks were carried out by Amar Singh and Heera Lal. There is room for everyone in this world. :giggle:
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