Mamu Posted June 9, 2010 Posted June 9, 2010 NEW DELHI: Pakistani-American terrorist David Headley has confirmed that Lashkar-e-Taiba terrorists carried out the Mumbai attack under the "guidance" of Pakistan's ISI. Headley, who is being interrogated in the US by a team of NIA officials, has said that the notorious ISI was engaged with the Lashkar commanders responsible for the 26/11 carnage at "each and every stage of the plot". The account of the terrorist, who receed targets for Lashkar terrorists across the country, corroborates India's stand about the involvement of Pakistani state actors in terrorism, trains the spotlight on LeT-ISI tandem, and explains Pakistan's unwillingness to clamp down on the Lashkar leadership. Headley has mentioned serving officers of Pakistan army — Major Sameer Ali, Major Iqbal and Major Haroon — as those who collaborated with the Laskhar terrorists. Major Sameer and Major Iqbal figured in the dossier India gave to Pakistani foreign secretary Salman Bashir. NIA's sessions with Headley tally with what he is learnt to have told the FBI, including the crucial bit about Hafiz Saeed being in the loop through the plot. Whether the disclosures that undercut its denial will lead Pakistan to step up its cooperation with the 26/11 probe remains unclear. Home minister P Chidambaram is to demand voice samples of seven Lashkar commanders including Zakiur Rahman Lakhvi, Zarar Shah, Abu Al Qama and others when he meets his Pakistani counterpart Rehman Malik during his visit to Islamabad for the conference of home ministers from SAARC region. Pakistan has so far refused to give voice samples which could help investigators ascertain the identity of those who instructed the 26/11 attackers as they went about their deadly assignment. Headley has also spoken of how post-26/11, ISI wanted Lashkar to disown the Mumbai attack to turn the global attention away from the terror outfit that Pakistan considers to be an important strategic asset to be used against India. With Ajmal Kasab snared, and investigations by India and FBI homing in its nexus with Lashkar, ISI planned to blame the carnage on al-Qaida. It even prepared a list of 4-5 al-Qaida figures who were to be projected as the conspirators. Significantly, the ploy did not work because of resitance from Lashkar leaders, particularly Zakiur Rahman Lakhvi, one of the 26/11 masterminds. Lashkar leaders who have proclaimed themselves to be innocent and have accused India of levelling baseless charges, felt that the increased notoriety after 26/11 had raised the terror profile of the group and was going to help them with recruitment and funds. Headley also admitted that while he had started off as a Lashkar recruit, he started drifting towards Al Qaida under the influence of Major Abdul Rahman Saeed. Saeed, who served with 6 Baloch Regiment of Pakistan army, took voluntary retirement in 2002 to devote himself full time to Al Qaida's cause. Headley, who respected Saeed for his "sacrifice", went high in the retired major'e esteem because of precise inputs he provided for the 26/11 attack. Saeed, with the help of Ilyas Kashmiri, drafted him for the plan to attack Danish newspaper Jylland Posten which published controversial cartoons of Prophet Mohammad. This, when Headley's original handler Sajid Mir wanted him to focus on Lashkar's anti-India mission. During his Pakistan visit, Chidambaram will also ask Islamabad to locate and arrest 13 absconders found guilty by Indian courts.
Desi Cartman Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 Ghanta ! they will say we cant trust a convicted terrorists word
Clarke Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 They need 'more proof' Please send Haedley/Gilani and Kasab/Amar Singh to Pakistan for interrogation. BTW Pakistan too wants access to its criminals hiding in India.
someone Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 Again it starts, Student India will do nothing but again complain to the principle USA that another student(Pakistan) is poking them. It will never learn how to stand up for itself.
achilles Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 And the sky is high. How obvious has this been and just what have we done to stem this persistent nonsense? Look at Israel. Too extreme but they atleast have a spine.
Roshanrocks Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 suppose it proven Pakistan is behind every attack that has taken place in india... what will our goverment do about it? :dontknow:
Guest Gunner Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 suppose it proven Pakistan is behind every attack that has taken place in india... what will our goverment do about it? :dontknow: We will open new bus service to Lahore.
Mamu Posted June 10, 2010 Author Posted June 10, 2010 We will send our cricket players to go and play in Pakistan. -- "Dil Jeet Lo -- II" series Nevermind the fact that you see more bullets from Ak-47s in the air than rain drops in that nation. Don't forget -- "No cricketer has ever been killed in a Terrorist Attack in Pakistan" and until that happens -- everything is safe and sound.
The Outsider Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 The news might well be true, but I have zero respect for Times of India's credibility. I did not find this news on New York Times, Washington Post, or even The Hindu - the only Indian newspaper with credibility. But regardless, the gung ho response of posters never ceases to amuse me. Besides putting diplomatic pressure on Pakistan and tightening up security, what can India do? Absolutely nothing without putting at risk the economic progress of the last so many years.
Roshanrocks Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 The news might well be true, but I have zero respect for Times of India's credibility. I did not find this news on New York Times, Washington Post, or even The Hindu - the only Indian newspaper with credibility. But regardless, the gung ho response of posters never ceases to amuse me. Besides putting diplomatic pressure on Pakistan and tightening up security, what can India do? Absolutely nothing without putting at risk the economic progress of the last so many years. eggzackly wot i was saying.... we cant do nothing :dontknow:
Gunner_Mania Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 eggzackly wot i was saying.... we cant do nothing :dontknow: :hmmm: What you are saying actually translates to we can do something not we can't do anything.
Roshanrocks Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 :hmmm: What you are saying actually translates to we can do something not we can't do anything. :hmmm: wot i mean is... even if its proven that our neighbors are guilty of terrorist attacks against us.. we wont do anything... after reading our history i doubt we even can do anything, we r traditionally a non-violent peaceful nation
King Tendulkar Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 But regardless, the gung ho response of posters never ceases to amuse me. Besides putting diplomatic pressure on Pakistan and tightening up security, what can India do? Absolutely nothing without putting at risk the economic progress of the last so many years. Gung ho??? No one is saying going to war. What indians are saying is stop the BS talks , stop pandering to paks every wants and needs etc etc. We must simply boycott paks until terrorism stops. I mean when pak players were not allowed to play in IPL, you could see so may pathetic indians in media especially jumping up and down saying what a disgrace. Boycott them politically and socially. Do not want their singers and entertainers coming to India. Ban all cricket ties with them, its a disgrace we are playing them in Asia Cup.
Gunner_Mania Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 1. Dont play any cricket with them even if it is a Worldcup Final and tell that upfront thru BCCI. Follow it up thru boycotting all sports events with that country. Ask others to do the same if they want to make money out of Indian cricket. This will hurt. Pakistan coach Waqar Younis wants the revival of India-Pakistan bilateral cricket ties and is looking forward to their clash in the upcoming Asia Cup in Sri Lanka. Waqar said he and his team were excited at the prospects of playing against India after a gap of several months. "It should be a great match as any contest between the two teams produces top quality cricket. It is unfortunate we are not playing against each other more often because Indo-Pak matches are watched by people all over the world and they are great for the sport," he said at a press conference. The two teams are due to clash on June 20 in Dambulla while tournament is kicking off on June 15 with a clash between Sri Lanka and Pakistan. http://www.ptinews.com/news/704885_Let-s-resume-Indo-Pak-bilateral-cricket-ties--Waqar
someone Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 1. Dont play any cricket with them even if it is a Worldcup Final and tell that upfront thru BCCI. Follow it up thru boycotting all sports events with that country. Ask others to do the same if they want to make money out of Indian cricket. This will hurt. 2. Dont do a single paisa worth of Business with them. Ask all your citizens and even NRIs to do the same. 3. Block all air traffic. 4. Block all sea routes. 5. Hang the caught terrorists and burry them with Pigs (you dont actually have to do the second part but just spread that news and see what happens). If you need to know more about this matter PM me. All these can be done without firing a single bullet. There are plenty of options that require the gun but a precondition to that is intestinal fortitude and like I keep repeating like a broken record we produce invertibrates by the millions. Agree, but given our country politics, it shall never happen as suddently there will be some paki supporters who will be against it( they might just do it cuz of opposition or to get into headlines) but never the less, in india, none of the positive steps are implemented well again due to our attitudes and politics.
Mamu Posted June 10, 2010 Author Posted June 10, 2010 1. Dont play any cricket with them even if it is a Worldcup Final and tell that upfront thru BCCI. Follow it up thru boycotting all sports events with that country. Ask others to do the same if they want to make money out of Indian cricket. This will hurt. 2. Dont do a single paisa worth of Business with them. Ask all your citizens and even NRIs to do the same. 3. Block all air traffic. 4. Block all sea routes. 5. Hang the caught terrorists and burry them with Pigs (you dont actually have to do the second part but just spread that news and see what happens). If you need to know more about this matter PM me. All these can be done without firing a single bullet. There are plenty of options that require the gun but a precondition to that is intestinal fortitude and like I keep repeating like a broken record we produce invertibrates by the millions. I agree with points 1 and 2. Just those 2 shall take care of business to a large extent. After all what are we asking in return, to just punish terrorists, not exactly sure -- what the big deal is about. Is that asking for a lot? How?
moumotta Posted June 10, 2010 Posted June 10, 2010 Headley is not giving any new information. The fact that rogue elements of ISI continue to help terror outfits is well known. How much of it is ISI's double game remains unclear.
saneindian Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 Increase the funding of RAW and help them create more havoc in the "land of pure". Tit for tat is the name of the game. If they want to bleed us, we have got double the resources to hurt them even more. This is the only way we will keep them on a leash. One bomb blast in India should be followed by 10 in Pakistan. Apologies for sounding like a blood-hungry bigot, but I have lost all hopes. Pakistan is not going to mend its ways unless we show them we are better at a proxy war.
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