Steyn - Stats

[CG]

Are you trying to say that their achievements are actually not so good because they bully tail enders?

Yes Sir,if you are a opening bowler and take more no 7,8,9,10,11 than 1,2,3 then it shows the potency compare with mcgrath ,wasim,ambrose,gillespie stats you see the difference

[rabinjackman]

even takin wickets atail enders is not easy now a days

[Serani]

Yes Sir' date='if you are a opening bowler and take more no 7,8,9,10,11 than 1,2,3 then it shows the potency compare with mcgrath ,wasim,ambrose,gillespie stats you see the difference[/quote'] You dont have an average in the low 20's without bullying tail enders. Im not looking at stats but I would guess those bowlers have also taken out a lot of tail enders. Also you cant really include a number 7 as tail, Matt prior is average 40 and bats at 7.

[Lord]

You dont have an average in the low 20's without bullying tail enders. Im not looking at stats but I would guess those bowlers have also taken out a lot of tail enders. Also you cant really include a number 7 as tail' date=' Matt prior is average 40 and bats at 7.[/quote'] yes even Gilly batted at 7 all his life

[Guest BossBhai]

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[Steyn]

Steyn should be considered as one of the all time best. He is imo better than Wasim, Waqar,McGrath, Pollok etc. No contemporary bowler comes near to Steyn's average and achievement. But there were a lot of ordinary bowlers who were having good success at the time of Ws, Mcgrath.

[achilles]

Steyn should be considered as one of the all time best. He is imo better than Wasim, Waqar,McGrath, Pollok etc. No contemporary bowler comes near to Steyn's average and achievement. But there were a lot of ordinary bowlers who were having good success at the time of Ws, Mcgrath.

[f.b.m]

The thing that is unique about him is his aggression. I dont know too many other bowlers except Waqar Younis with his class being as aggressive in a very raw sense as he is now. Most of them (McGrath, Walsh, Akram, etc) become 'masters of swing', 'metronomes', etc, etc. Steyn must be the bowler in that group who cares least about accuracy and is in essence, still a raw phast baller.

[f.b.m]

Btw, I was a big fan of him ever since he took that 5 wicket haul in Sri Lanka back in 3567 BC. Never thought that he would become as good as this!

[Hur Rizvi]

Guys like steyn and waqar have great averages and strike rates and the reason is their bowling to tailenders.Our indian Fast bowlers have most toporders wickets in there careers and spinners most tailender wickets. Steyn-http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/47492.html?batting_positionmin1=8;batting_positionval1=batting_position;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=default;template=results;type=bowling;view=dismissal_summary Almost HALF 94 wickets of 204 are of 7-11 this shows why his strike rate and averages are so low

Bus karo duffer indian nation has never produced Guys like waqar bhai and steyn.... They produce 80-85mph trundlers Waqar is one of the greatest fast bowlers and u r comparing him wid crappy indian bowlers.. WTF Give the credit where it is due Waqar is great and steyn will be a great too .... Both are great bowlers

[Lord]

Bus karo duffer indian nation has never produced Guys like waqar bhai and steyn.... They produce 80-85mph trundlers Waqar is one of the greatest fast bowlers and u r comparing him wid crappy indian bowlers.. WTF Give the credit where it is due Waqar is great and steyn will be a great too .... Both are great bowlers

but hes never won a world cup

[Hur Rizvi]

but hes never won a world cup

This is a lame excuse Aaqib javed has won us world cup so has Umar gul , sohail tanvir ...That doesnt take them close to waqar rubbish argument ...

[Lord]

This is a lame excuse Aaqib javed has won us world cup so has Umar gul ' date=' sohail tanvir ...That doesnt take them close to waqar rubbish argument ...[/quote'] cool down,i was just giving the same argument that Sachin haters use to pull him down.look how lame it is

[Hur Rizvi]

cool down' date='i was just giving the same argument that Sachin haters use to pull him down.look how lame it is[/quote'] Sachin is a great and world cup winning argument is Rubbish whether it is for sachin or waqar

[Serani]

The thing that is unique about him is his aggression. I dont know too many other bowlers except Waqar Younis with his class being as aggressive in a very raw sense as he is now. Most of them (McGrath' date=' Walsh, Akram, etc) become 'masters of swing', 'metronomes', etc, etc. Steyn must be the bowler in that group who cares least about accuracy and is in essence, still a raw phast baller.[/quote'] Roach will be better than Steyn :pray:

[SachDan]

248 wickets at a SR of 39.4 :hail: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=bowling_strike_rate;qualmax1=800;qualmin1=200;qualval1=wickets;template=results;type=bowling

[bulbul]

Roach will be better than Steyn :pray:

coc-roach ?

[f.b.m]

Roach will be better than Steyn :pray:

I dont think Roach will be very successful tbh. I'm not saying this based on hindsight or saying that he doesnt have the raw ingredients but he is one of those bowlers who doesnt get a truckload of wickets when hes bowling well (a bit like Flintoff) and doesnt get any fluke wickets like Mitchell Jonhson when he's bowling badly. (wicketability if thats a word) Roach bowls mainly from wide of the crease, moves the ball in rather than away and doesn't bowl a fullish length too often. All of these things mean that he isnt going to take too many wickets even when looking good and bowling well imo. Edit: I'll stick my neck out and say that Darren Sammy will have better numbers on the longer run than Roach.

[Trichromatic]

Mat 	Player 	        Country     Wickets      Avg   Year 
40 	Waqar Younis 	Pakistan 	211 	20.87 	1996
41 	Waqar Younis 	Pakistan 	216 	21.08 	1996
42 	Waqar Younis 	Pakistan 	217 	21.67 	1996
43 	Waqar Younis 	Pakistan 	222 	21.49 	1996
44 	Lillee, D K 	Australia 	229 	23.30 	1980
45 	Steyn, D W * 	South Africa 	232 	23.08 	2010
46 	Steyn, D W * 	South Africa 	238 	22.99 	2011
47 	Steyn, D W * 	South Africa 	244 	22.75 	2011
48 	Lillee, D K 	Australia 	251 	23.37 	1981
49 	Lillee, D K 	Australia 	259 	22.96 	1981
50 	Lillee, D K 	Australia 	262 	23.40 	1981
51 	Lillee, D K 	Australia 	269 	23.32 	1981
52 	Lillee, D K 	Australia 	273 	23.39 	1981
53 	Lillee, D K 	Australia 	279 	23.57 	1981
54 	Lillee, D K 	Australia 	290 	23.23 	1981
55 	Lillee, D K 	Australia 	296 	23.08 	1981 

2 wickets needed for fastest 250 wickets and 4 more to become highest wickets after 48 matches. Such record after playing in all conditions and performing all teams. Best SR

[Chandan]

Can you please post fastest to 250 till now? Want to see where Marshall. Holding, Botham, Hadlee etc stand? And do post fastest to 300 as well so that we can track Steyn with some interest.