Bradman99 Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 Er... He was supposedly in his prime few years back and you say that he's just gone off it a little bit the last few years. So er... when exactly was he in his prime? Was it when Afridi was 18? Oh, wait... :(( His prime = not the last few years
Bradman99 Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 I totally agree with you. He has become a baggage. Out of curiosity -- what is his average in the last 2 years? And how are the no-nonsense Aus selectors tolerating him ? Did they make an exception for Ponting. Shoes -- Hang --- Ponting -- anybody ? No idea what his avereage is. And funnily enough there has been almost ntohing said about Ponting's form, but I've noticed it for some time now.
Sid Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 3 nil down ,two to go but aussies showed a great fight back today
Chorazin Reto Posted June 28, 2010 Posted June 28, 2010 I think personally they just had team balance wrong in the 1st 2 games, Harris has run hot and cold, Mckay just doesnt seem penetrative and out of sorts, and Hauritz is a restrictive spinner not really a wicket taker. You cant rely on Bollinger, England can just play him cautiously, put the loose delivery away, and see him off, then take apart Mckay/Hopes/Watson. Tait adds some real fire to the attack, although he struggles to get through the 10 overs and drops off in pace, he is definitely a wicket taker and having him in the team nearly swung that match after a truly abysmal batting display. The batting :headshake: G1 ~ G2 ~ G3 ~ AV ~ Average SR Ponting 21 ~ 13 ~ 3 ~ 12.33AV ~ 56.66SR Clarke 87 ~ 1 ~ 33 ~ 40.33AV ~ 54.66SR White 10 ~ 86 ~ 12 ~ 36AV ~ 63.66SR Hussey 28 ~ 14 ~ 21 ~ 21AV ~ 74.66SR Paine 26 ~ 16 ~ 44 ~ 28.66AV ~ 68.66SR Watson has been the stand out Watson 32 ~ 57 ~ 61 ~ 50AV ~ 99.66SR
Karan114 Posted June 28, 2010 Posted June 28, 2010 Clarke's slow scoring in limited overs cricket and Ponting's poor form have been a problem for Australia for a while now. Haddin is missed as well, he is a quick scorer compared to Paine.
gaurav92 Posted June 28, 2010 Posted June 28, 2010 I think personally they just had team balance wrong in the 1st 2 games, Harris has run hot and cold, Mckay just doesnt seem penetrative and out of sorts, and Hauritz is a restrictive spinner not really a wicket taker. You cant rely on Bollinger, England can just play him cautiously, put the loose delivery away, and see him off, then take apart Mckay/Hopes/Watson. Tait adds some real fire to the attack, although he struggles to get through the 10 overs and drops off in pace, he is definitely a wicket taker and having him in the team nearly swung that match after a truly abysmal batting display. The batting :headshake: G1 ~ G2 ~ G3 ~ AV ~ Average SR Ponting 21 ~ 13 ~ 3 ~ 12.33AV ~ 56.66SR Clarke 87 ~ 1 ~ 33 ~ 40.33AV ~ 54.66SR White 10 ~ 86 ~ 12 ~ 36AV ~ 63.66SR Hussey 28 ~ 14 ~ 21 ~ 21AV ~ 74.66SR Paine 26 ~ 16 ~ 44 ~ 28.66AV ~ 68.66SR Watson has been the stand out Watson 32 ~ 57 ~ 61 ~ 50AV ~ 99.66SR :hehe:
Mamu Posted June 28, 2010 Posted June 28, 2010 What is Aus ICC Rank going to be assuming it would be 3-2
Karan114 Posted June 28, 2010 Posted June 28, 2010 ^ They would be ranked one, on 131 points. England would drop down to 114 points and stay in fourth place
Bradman99 Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 Clarke's slow scoring in limited overs cricket and Ponting's poor form have been a problem for Australia for a while now. Haddin is missed as well' date=' he is a quick scorer compared to Paine.[/quote'] Agreed.
Ram Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 Nice to see the Aussies getting their asses whooped, that too by the Poms..
achilles Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 Nice to see the Aussies getting their asses whooped' date=' that too by the Poms.. [/quote'] It wouldn't be wrong to predict a 100 in one of the final two games from Ricky. It would be of little consequence though. I'm surprised to see the state of affairs that Australia finds itself in, despite having the "Best domestic structure" in the world.
Karan114 Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 I'm surprised to see the state of affairs that Australia finds itself in' date=' despite having the "Best domestic structure" in the world.[/quote'] We still lost to this side, and at home at that :((
achilles Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 We still lost to this side' date=' and at home at that :(([/quote'] Yes. We played rubbish cricket. Esp the game in which scored 175 and yet we lost. We've had our share of choking and joke cricket. Perhaps we could learn a thing or two from a written-off team like England.
Fontaine Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 And what would we learn from England? How to poach foreign players like Morgan/Peterson etc? Or collapse like they did again in their last ODI once strauss got out.
Sid Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 And what would we learn from England? How to poach foreign players like Morgan/Peterson etc? Or collapse like they did again in their last ODI once strauss got out. ++,i have no respect for a team or country whose two best batsmen (morgan and peitersen) are from different countries,sometimes it is hard to believe how they feel proud to be representing a country which they dont even belong
Ram Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 And what would we learn from England? How to poach foreign players like Morgan/Peterson etc? Or collapse like they did again in their last ODI once strauss got out. That’s gross misrepresentation of the situation. The English Cricket Board didn’t send scouts all over the world to poach talented cricketers by dangling alluring prospects. It’s the players themselves who choose to migrate and play for England.
achilles Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 That’s gross misrepresentation of the situation. The English Cricket Board didn’t send scouts all over the world to poach to poach talented cricketers by dangling alluring prospects. It’s the players themselves who choose to migrate and play for England. And Fontaine, to add to this, England has won the series against pretty much the same Australian B team which visited us (now don't temme that ABC was there and XYZ wasn't). So they've done something right, isn't it? We've gotta appreciate their effort and not attribute it to 2-5 players. Its not like ECB gave them a red carpet welcome and their qualifying period for England was cancelled. They earned their place just like any other Englishman or for that matter, any cricketer would. Gotta hand it out to England for the way they have tackled Australia :hatsoff:
Serani Posted June 30, 2010 Posted June 30, 2010 ++' date='i have no respect for a team or country whose two best batsmen (morgan and peitersen) are from different countries,sometimes it is hard to believe how they feel proud to be representing a country which they dont even belong[/quote'] Why has Pietersen got the three lions tatood on his arm then? He loves england, his home, his wife, his child all english.
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