India-KXIP fan Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 vein popping? :cantstop: Actuallly he was actually one of the few who had terrific body without looking ugly. Also you should be willing to take steroids to maintain a body like that. Yeah I'd be a little smaller. Arnie a little too big. Around about Zyzz weight and bf% is perfect (height adjusted). Thanks Akshay, good post
Swing_n_Speed Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 vein popping? :cantstop: Actuallly he was actually one of the few who had terrific body without looking ugly. Also you should be willing to take steroids to maintain a body like that. Naa was just curious. I have no interest in looking that huge. I actually prefer the lean look.
akshayxyz Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 vein popping? :cantstop: Actuallly he was actually one of the few who had terrific body without looking ugly. Also you should be willing to take steroids to maintain a body like that. More importantly - you have to start very early..most of these (world level) BB guys have a solid base by 18 or so. Look around how Arnie looked like around 16/18 years of age. Genetics also play big role :(
punjabi_khota Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 A recent news article I read about using smaller weights and muscle gain http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/04/30/151710725/lighter-weights-can-still-make-a-big-fitness-difference http://www.emaxhealth.com/1506/lighter-weights-more-reps-are-effective-building-muscle
India-KXIP fan Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 ^don't want to come of as a phaggot but look at the source...
Lurker Posted June 27, 2012 Author Posted June 27, 2012 A recent news article I read about using smaller weights and muscle gain http://www.emaxhealth.com/1506/lighter-weights-more-reps-are-effective-building-muscle Pink dumbbell tum ko hi mubarak. Try gaining muscles with that...:giggle: By the way, nothing new in that article really. All it says is - Dont try to push heavy weight, try moving moderate weight under good form for many reps to the point where the muscles are taxed. That I would think is understood by most. Dont go by weights, instead have the mind-muscle relationship going so that you know your muscles are getting taxed. High reps thing can vary depending on your goals. Take the latest rage - Cross-fit. It uses quick reps with many kinds of bodyweight and other workouts, includes jogging etc. You can get in solid shape, and great sporting health, but if you want to be huge cross-fit is not gonna do much for you. In the end depnds on your goals, so tailor make accordingly :bow:
punjabi_khota Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 ^don't want to come of as a phaggot but look at the source... NPR :--D
Swing_n_Speed Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 A recent news article I read about using smaller weights and muscle gain http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/04/30/151710725/lighter-weights-can-still-make-a-big-fitness-difference http://www.emaxhealth.com/1506/lighter-weights-more-reps-are-effective-building-muscle Fascinating. Work to the point of failure. I guess no point moving beyond 15 kg dumbbells for most exercises. Exceptions being the bench press and dead-lift.
akshayxyz Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 Another example. Notice the progressive decline in muscularity - 100 meter sprinters, 800m ones, ...and then marathoners.
Swing_n_Speed Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 What do folk here eat post workouts? For me it's an apple with peanut butter + orange....and after a while I'd eat my normal meal depending on when I'm working out. Thinking of moving into protein shakes soon.
Swing_n_Speed Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 Another example. Notice the progressive decline in muscularity - 100 meter sprinters, 800m ones, ...and then marathoners. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOC7O9JOY3Y]The fastest man in the world Usain Bolt works out at the Gym - YouTube[/ame]
Yoda-esque Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 Another example. Notice the progressive decline in muscularity - 100 meter sprinters, 800m ones, ...and then marathoners. Thats right : Strength Vs Endurance
akshayxyz Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 That npr article experiment used 'weight lifting novices' As I said - body/low weight exercises will help a beginner - but only upto certain point.. ( in terms of gaining strength and size)
Swing_n_Speed Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 That npr article experiment used 'weight lifting novices' As I said - body/low weight exercises will help a beginner - but only upto certain point.. ( in terms of gaining strength and size) [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOFSxoKC7t0]GSP RUSHFIT Georges St-Pierre's Training Series Trailer - YouTube[/ame] With workouts like these, while not targeting any specific muscles for size, the workouts can you lean and ripped with fairly light weights. (10,15 and at best 20 kgs)
India-KXIP fan Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 ^You can get lean and ripped without weights by cutting. But you will be skinny type of ripped. You won't gain any muscle unless 20kg or so is the weight you can only manage for around 12 reps. Fixed my above post , posting fixed version now. For beginners strength is most important. You will also gain size on strength routines due to noob gains. Once you have a foundation of strength you switch to hypertrophy (weights you can manage for 8-12 reps) http://stronglifts.com/how-to-build-muscle-mass-guide/ Recommended routines for beginners Stronglifts 5x5 Mark Rippetoe Starting strength These boost strength very quickly, and for beginners size aswell. They also train legs which many chest/bicep warriors disregard. Here's basics http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=712752&page=1
vvvslaxman Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 Pink dumbbell tum ko hi mubarak. Try gaining muscles with that...:giggle: By the way, nothing new in that article really. All it says is - Dont try to push heavy weight, try moving moderate weight under good form for many reps to the point where the muscles are taxed. That I would think is understood by most. Dont go by weights, instead have the mind-muscle relationship going so that you know your muscles are getting taxed. High reps thing can vary depending on your goals. Take the latest rage - Cross-fit. It uses quick reps with many kinds of bodyweight and other workouts, includes jogging etc. You can get in solid shape, and great sporting health, but if you want to be huge cross-fit is not gonna do much for you. In the end depnds on your goals, so tailor make accordingly :bow: Yup.. goals determine type of routines. Most of us would want to strike a balance. Strong and Fit. Not just fit or not just strong.
akshayxyz Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 With workouts like these, while not targeting any specific muscles for size, the workouts can you lean and ripped with fairly light weights. (10,15 and at best 20 kgs) Now ask him.. did he get that muscle mass, just by doing body weight routines?
akshayxyz Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 Yup.. goals determine type of routines. Most of us would want to strike a balance. Strong and Fit. Not just fit or not just strong. You can be fit and strong - by building muscle (by lifting heavy), and maintaining good cardio health ( by running/swimming/cycling etc). The thing is, what is your perception of fitness and strength - if someone can run 5k, and lift decently - he is not required to do 100 pushup-sets - to be called fit. One can have well defined abs - by just doing heavy lifting ( chest/back/legs), and good amount of cardio...500/1000 crunches are not required. In fact, explore around - people who have 'big' abs, do weighted crunches with less reps....and to make them visible, you need to burn fat, by cardio work.
mhr123 Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 150 pushups after chest workout is impressive. (other way to look at it, perhaps you can squeeze in more in the chest-weights session) I have tried few times, but after chest workout I never crossed 40-50 - that too split across multiple sets. Primarily because, I do not like any exercise involving lots of reps - i start getting bored - and chest is my weakest link - due to some elbow & shoulder issues. There is this 100 pushups routine - http://hundredpushups.com/ You can be zero to hero in 5-6 weeks. There are similar routines for squats (200) and pullups (100). 100 pullups (not one set!!!) is most difficult. Today was my chest day ... my workout regime is : 6 set incline Bench press .. Barbell ( 2 warmup using 60 kgs .. adding 10 to 15 kgs each rep) .. last rep 6th we call it pyramid set were we have 2 spotter at each end of the bar .. we load close to 110 kgs with multiple weights .. 2 nos - 20kgs, 2nos - 10 kgs and then 4nos - 5 kgs... do a rep of 5 (holding the bar) spotter takes out the first set of weight , then another 5 rep spotter takes out another set of weight and so on until the last plates are left and we do it for 10 reps... its one to best to get more mass... i saw Bertil Fox in one video doing the same way , from that day i have tried it and it works...try it ... but u have to be careful while holding the bar when spotter is taking out the weight. 4 set of Flat bench using on Dumbbells ... we used to do using a bar but dumbbells are the best .. 4 set of decline Bench press .. barbell.. 4 set of cable cross over .. bring the cables from over the head ... 3 set of cable cross over .. bringing cables from below.. i dunno to know the exact name.. At last .. 150 pushups.. today i did 30 reps 5 set... Some of the guys consider it to be over-training .. but my body feels great .. i have a good nutrition schedule with proper rest.
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