saneindian Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 Thanks to these legends for ensuring the word "match fixing" died a certain death in Indian Cricket. It's in times like these when one realises the actual value these greats bring to a team other than their on field performance.
Rajan Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 i think atleast sachin, Kumble,Srinath were around when Azhar/Jadeja were fixing matches.they kept quiet, did not inform BCCI/ICC or selectors.these men had the stature to stop this, yet did not come out in the open until the cronje gate hit the headlines.by no stretch of imagination, i suspect them involved in fixing, but these cricketers should have had the guts to atleast inform BCCI that these things are happening.in fact Kapil as the coach of indian test team, once convinced Sachin as captain, not to enforce the follow on. later when the decision was questioned, kapil disowned it completely. there was serious discussion about the huge money bookies made in the "follow on or not betting" for that test against NZ, in india.
DomainK Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 i think atleast sachin' date=' Kumble,Srinath were around when Azhar/Jadeja were fixing matches.they kept quiet, did not inform BCCI/ICC or selectors.these men had the stature to stop this, yet did not come out in the open until the cronje gate hit the headlines.by no stretch of imagination, i suspect them involved in fixing, but these cricketers should have had the guts to atleast inform BCCI that these things are happening.in fact Kapil as the coach of indian test team, once convinced Sachin as captain, not to enforce the follow on. later when the decision was questioned, kapil disowned it completely. there was serious discussion about the huge money bookies made in the "follow on or not betting" for that test against NZ, in india.[/quote'] Rajan, we dont know what was the inside scenario at that time. We dont know how many from inside BCCI and the Indian government were involved. May be they protested and bumped into a wall. May be they did not raise their voice any louder because they knew it would have been useless. If Kapil could do what you have written above, it does not inspire a lot of confidence, does it? However, IIRC, Sachin once spoiled a fixed match by singlehandedly winning it for India. Anyone remembers which match it was?
Rajan Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 Rajan, we dont know what was the inside scenario at that time. We dont know how many from inside BCCI and the Indian government were involved. May be they protested and bumped into a wall. May be they did not raise their voice any louder because they knew it would have been useless. If Kapil could do what you have written above, it does not inspire a lot of confidence, does it? However, IIRC, Sachin once spoiled a fixed match by singlehandedly winning it for India. Anyone remembers which match it was? I agree with u to a certain extent... yes, i read somewhere that the match fixers/bookies will not take risky bets until-"chottu"- got out.(thats how they nicknamed Sachin)..
king2be98 Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 I'll say this, if they were playing in the time of possible fixers, then they knew about it for sure, if they knew, the question is why didn't they act on it?
Ram Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 Guys like Sachin, Dravid, Kumble, VVS, Srinath, Ganguly, Sehwag are true legends.. Statesmen of the game. Make me feel proud about being an indian cricketer. :isalute:
Sachinism Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 Guys like Sachin' date=' Dravid, Kumble, VVS, Srinath, Ganguly, Sehwag are true legends.. Statesmen of the game.[b'] Make me feel proud about being an indian cricketer. :isalute: :woot: We have an Indian cricketer on the forum? Who is it? Badri? :P
Holysmoke Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 Make me feel proud about being an indian cricketer. :isalute: :omg::omg::omg: http://www.cricinfo.com/india/content/player/34118.html
SachDan Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 :omg::omg::omg: http://www.cricinfo.com/india/content/player/34118.html :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:
Ram Posted August 30, 2010 Posted August 30, 2010 I meant to say Indian cricket supporter, you spanners.. :giggle: P.S; I'll let you guys in on one more thing, my full name is Sridharan Sriram as well..:--D
Desi Cartman Posted August 30, 2010 Posted August 30, 2010 I meant to say Indian cricket supporter, you spanners.. :giggle: P.S; I'll let you guys in on one more thing, my full name is Sridharan Sriram as well..:--D Sri Sri :woot:
vamos_rafa Posted August 30, 2010 Posted August 30, 2010 i think atleast sachin' date=' Kumble,Srinath were around when Azhar/Jadeja were fixing matches.they kept quiet, did not inform BCCI/ICC or selectors.these men had the stature to stop this, yet did not come out in the open until the cronje gate hit the headlines.by no stretch of imagination, i suspect them involved in fixing, but these cricketers should have had the guts to atleast inform BCCI that these things are happening.in fact Kapil as the coach of indian test team, once convinced Sachin as captain, not to enforce the follow on. later when the decision was questioned, kapil disowned it completely. there was serious discussion about the huge money bookies made in the "follow on or not betting" for that test against NZ, in india.[/quote'] Rajan, when hansie croje finally confessed that he was involved ito match fixing and he had included players like telemachus, crooke and gibbs, he had clearly mentioned that he used to target the young and budding players. Also he used to ensure that people like Donald,Pollock,Rhodes and Kirsten were never ever informed of the clandestine activities that were going on. Maybe this was the very same scenario in our dressing rooms as well.
Rajan Posted August 30, 2010 Posted August 30, 2010 Rajan' date=' when hansie croje finally confessed that he was involved ito match fixing and he had included players like telemachus, crooke and gibbs, he had clearly mentioned that he used to target the young and budding players. Also he used to ensure that people like Donald,Pollock,Rhodes and Kirsten were never ever informed of the clandestine activities that were going on. Maybe this was the very same scenario in our dressing rooms as well.[/quote'] no, the then board secretary Jaywant Lele and Coach Anshuman had told him that the next day's match was fixed by Azhar & co, indian team was set to lose...this was part of the sting operation by Tehelka once a few years back. I would agree that Azhar or other match fixers/bookies would not have directly approached Sachin/Kumble but our heroes had an idea about what was happening in the same dressing room. as some one pointed out, there could have been many reasons for not coming out-threat from underworld, lack of credible, legally valid proof etc.
IKnowU Posted August 30, 2010 Posted August 30, 2010 no, the then board secretary Jaywant Lele and Coach Anshuman had told him that the next day's match was fixed by Azhar & co, indian team was set to lose...this was part of the sting operation by Tehelka once a few years back. I would agree that Azhar or other match fixers/bookies would not have directly approached Sachin/Kumble but our heroes had an idea about what was happening in the same dressing room. as some one pointed out, there could have been many reasons for not coming out-threat from underworld, lack of credible, legally valid proof etc. yea back then underworld threats and security was a severe problem.
TheWall Posted August 30, 2010 Posted August 30, 2010 Thanks to these legends for ensuring the word "match fixing" died a certain death in Indian Cricket. It's in times like these when one realises the actual value these greats bring to a team other than their on field performance. :two_thumbs_up::two_thumbs_up::two_thumbs_up:
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