Ijaz Butt in Delhi to meet Sharad Pawar, betting issue on agenda

[achilles]

Y does PCB keep saying innocent until proven guilty ? i mean how much evidence do they need do u think the video and dated receipts are not enough to punish the trio.

They are not willing to concede that their players are at fault.

[asterix]

They are not willing to concede that their players are at fault.

The main reason is that some of the PCB officials too were involved in fixing along with the players and they don't want the players to spill the beans...

[UmarAkmal]

The main reason is that some of the PCB officials too were involved in fixing along with the players and they don't want the players to spill the beans...

Every board tries to support their players. BCCI supported Harbhajan against Symmonds and also forced ICC to suspend Sachin ball tampering ban despite being guilty. ACB never charged mark Waugh & Tim May for match fixing.

[achilles]

The main reason is that some of the PCB officials too were involved in fixing along with the players and they don't want the players to spill the beans...

Can't rule that out. Its a major nexus. Like GM said in some thread, the danger to the players' life is grave.

Every board tries to support their players. BCCI supported Harbhajan against Symmonds and also forced ICC to suspend Sachin ball tampering ban despite being guilty. ACB never charged mark Waugh & Tim May for match fixing.

BCCI also banned Azhar, our most successful captain at that time, for life. We know when to support and when to take action.

[UmarAkmal]

BCCI also banned Azhar' date=' our most successful captain at that time, for life. We know when to support and when to take action.[/quote'] PCB banned Salim Malik & Atta Rehman as well. When PCB supports its players, they are corrupt but other boards do the same, in comes the innocent until guilty propoganda.

[Shakthi]

Every board tries to support their players. BCCI supported Harbhajan against Symmonds and also forced ICC to suspend Sachin ball tampering ban despite being guilty. ACB never charged mark Waugh & Tim May for match fixing.

Hold on what proof have u got Sachin was doing ball tampering even Mike deness confessed it was wrong to accuse sachin of something which sach didnt do . So u r saying players shud fix matches for money and boards shud supprt them . Denial & Delusion are the traits of Pakistan u fans supprt u r players whether they take drugs tamper the ball eat the ball or fix matches or any cheating and remember one thing just cz ur players sell country for money doesnt mean everyone does the same. Pakistan shud be banned from international cricket and players shud be given life bans ball tampering match fixing ball eating drug taking or any cheating pakistan will top the list without any competition and dont cry racism when ur players are doing wrong things.

[achilles]

PCB banned Salim Malik & Atta Rehman as well. When PCB supports its players' date=' they are corrupt but other boards do the same, in comes the innocent until guilty propoganda.[/quote'] The players in most of the other cases were actually innocent. The Pakistani players have time and again been given a reprieve and they find themselves in this position today, only coz of that. The kind of regular and ridiculous flip-flops from Salman & Co. go onto to justify the world's anger towards PCB. One day, they said, they got no money. Second day, it was a marketing deal. Third day, they wanted to open an ice-cream parlour. What kind of excuses are these? I'm sure you will concede that your players are wrong their... and pretty blatantly at that.

[Shakthi]

The players in most of the other cases were actually innocent. The Pakistani players have time and again been given a reprieve and they find themselves in this position today, only coz of that. The kind of regular and ridiculous flip-flops from Salman & Co. go onto to justify the world's anger towards PCB. One day, they said, they got no money. Second day, it was a marketing deal. Third day, they wanted to open an ice-cream parlour. What kind of excuses are these? I'm sure you will concede that your players are wrong their... and pretty blatantly at that.

Denial & Delusion excuses excuses then excuses now PCB are saying they shud have been informed about second fixing allegation what would have pcb done? claim their players are innocent and sing the same song " Innocent until proven guilty" .

[Debutant]

ICC has got enough evidence to ban these cheats. But i cant understand why they are dragging it. And about delusional pakis ,what do u expect from them when they can think Afretard is world class. They think all world is trying to defame Pakistan but they cant understand how can anybody defame any country which has ZERO(0000) fame in the world.

[beetle]

Sharad Pawar is possibly the most corrupt politican in India....he is known to save the worst of the worst for profit.This Ba$ta## cannot be trusted.Had the scotland yard not been involved...all this would have been sorted out way earlier with the underworld that finally controls the betting trade paying off willing fat corrupt politicians/officials. Why hasn't ICC with its anti corruption unit not got any idea about all this all these years? I bet some people were conveniently ignoring the issue all these years...and would have continued if the police and the media had not found out earlier.With Pawar in Power...any thing is possible.

[King Tendulkar]

Every board tries to support their players. BCCI supported Harbhajan against Symmonds and also forced ICC to suspend Sachin ball tampering ban despite being guilty. ACB never charged mark Waugh & Tim May for match fixing.

Pakis supporting the actions of the their cricket board in this whole sorry affair:hysterical:

[Mamu]

Pakis supporting the actions of the their cricket board in this whole sorry affair:hysterical:

Do you see why I keep arguing about their fans being a part of the problem. Why do we feel sorry for these guys? It is exactly because of douce bags like these. This nation is one step away from getting banned from International Cricket and yet this -- "This is our way of living and you come to grips with us and live with us, we are not going to do any better" attitude never dies.

[King Tendulkar]

Do you see why I keep arguing about their fans being a part of the problem. Why do we feel sorry for these guys? It is exactly because of douce bags like these. This nation is one step away from getting banned from International Cricket and yet this -- "This is our way of living and you come to grips with us and live with us, we are not going to do any better" attitude never dies.

99.9% of the stuff you post on pakis is spot on. Its always harsh but totally fair and accurate.

[King Tendulkar]

Can you refer me to the 0.1% of the stuff where he's not spot on. I need a window to your mind. :hysterical:

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[Pak_Forever]

No one's supporting trio action. why have they been dragged in this latest episode? As far as I know 99% Pakistanis are in favor of some sort of punishment to these trio. They are just outraged by this recent ridiculous accusation when the team fought hard and win the game out of nowhere, the very next day this is what ICC came up with? Pathetic! The corruption and bias is crystal clear. Don't be buffoons as it's apparent from that case when ICC declined IPL fixing and English players involvement within seconds of the accusation.

[Gunner_Mania]

No one's supporting trio action. why have they been dragged in this latest episode? As far as I know 99% Pakistanis are in favor of some sort of punishment to these trio. They are just outraged by this recent ridiculous accusation when the team fought hard and win the game out of nowhere, the very next day this is what ICC came up with? Pathetic! The corruption and bias is crystal clear. Don't be buffoons as it's apparent from that case when ICC declined IPL fixing and English players involvement within seconds of the accusation.

Seriously?? I thought the head of your board just said that England were paid to throw the game away? If that is true, then it just shows your team did sweet feck all. For fecks sake mate, IPL is a domestic tournament not an ICC tournament for ICC to investigate it. It is a BCCI run tournament and if there is any investigation BCCI will do it. Wha next you will expect the ICC to come around and investigae tour Karachi league?

[Pak_Forever]

Seriously?? I thought the head of your board just said that England were paid to throw the game away? If that is true, then it just shows your team did sweet feck all. For fecks sake mate, IPL is a domestic tournament not an ICC tournament for ICC to investigate it. It is a BCCI run tournament and if there is any investigation BCCI will do it. Wha next you will expect the ICC to come around and investigae tour Karachi league?

Exactly, you got that darn right. ICC was smart enough to come out and say everything is doodh ka dhula hoa in IPL. I am not suggesting IPL was fixed or not fixed, that's not my concern here, it's only the obvious bias that ICC showed by going public with the "statement that IPL is pure, IPL is clean" when they got no jack clue about it as it's not run by them.

[King Tendulkar]

No one's supporting trio action. why have they been dragged in this latest episode? As far as I know 99% Pakistanis are in favor of some sort of punishment to these trio. They are just outraged by this recent ridiculous accusation when the team fought hard and win the game out of nowhere' date= the very next day this is what ICC came up with? Pathetic! The corruption and bias is crystal clear. Don't be buffoons as it's apparent from that case when ICC declined IPL fixing and English players involvement within seconds of the accusation.

Are you saying ICC are making this all up to defame the great country of pakistan? ICC are in on the world wide conspiracy against pakistan/muslims(like 9/11, Mumbai attacks,SL team atttack etc etc)? What evidence do you have that the allegations are false? You say the team won as if this is some kind of proof. But the allegations were about spot fixing in scoring rates in certain overs, not match fixing. Thus can do spot fixing and maybe at times till win. Butt has also now said england players were paid to lose the match. This means you did not play hard to win at all and in fact you were gifted the game:hysterical: This whole episode sums up pak psyche in all facets of your country. 1. Pakis do something bad and awful. 2. Pakis then get exposed in wrong doing(wether terrorism/cricket etc etc) 3. Pakis then unbeliavbly claim its all conspiracy by world(as if whole world spends its time planning ways to defame paks) to defame the pakistan:hysterical: As if pakis and country can do now wrong! 4. These theories spread on the net and even more idoitic paks support conspiracy theory and add to their victim mentality!:hysterical: 5. Pakistan heads even more down the toilet with their sticking head in sand mentality(altough a lot of it is bare faced lying in pathetic attempt to save pak reputation or they agree with such heinous activities) and the downwood spiral continues, as only way to make things better is to face reality and deal with it and correct it. Conspiracy theory/victim mentality spirals pak ever more towards gutter ! 6. Number 1 happens again and then paks go through above again!

[King Tendulkar]

Are all paks related in some way to Butt and Pak high commissioner(who i think must have been seperated at birth)? As all pakis seems to have the same mentality!:hysterical: Its just excuses after excuses. Smoke screen after smoke screen. Conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory:hysterical:

[achilles]

Take the moral highground and accept your mistakes, PCB. You will see that the ICC is only protecting your interests by helping you clean your system.