panesarv Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 This shows how much confidence he has in his own team. He's probably like no way Umar Gul could take those many wickets!! Must be a conspiracy!!!
SachDan Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 What will happen to Butt and PCB if these are false allegations? Butt was emphasizing on "let our investigation finish"..what kind of investigation is this and who are the ones carrying it out for PCB? hmmm...
asterix Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 I'm pretty sure the Player and PCB offilcials are member of some 'Passionate' website.. I can see a complete uniformity in most of their thought process, passion, jazba & junoon.. Butt's allegations could actually be a message/post posted by some members in some Passionate website and Butt might have just bought that idea and presented it..
asterix Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 What will happen to Butt and PCB if these are false allegations? Butt was emphasizing on "let our investigation finish"..what kind of investigation is this and who are the ones carrying it out for PCB? hmmm... ISI is on the case now..I wouldn't be surprised if ISI agents got a 'bookie' to 'talk' to The Sun tabloid and 'claim' certain things. And when The Sun publishes the report, 'Victim Cards' can be played by Pakistan/PCB..
SachDan Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 I'm pretty sure the Player and PCB offilcials are member of some 'Passionate' website.. I can see a complete uniformity in most of their thought process, passion, jazba & junoon.. Butt's allegations could actually be a message/post posted by some members in some Passionate website and Butt might have just bought that idea and presented it.. Can't rule that out..seriously!
The Outsider Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 I'm pretty sure the Player and PCB offilcials are member of some 'Passionate' website.. I can see a complete uniformity in most of their thought process, passion, jazba & junoon.. Butt's allegations could actually be a message/post posted by some members in some Passionate website and Butt might have just bought that idea and presented it.. Saj bhai and Oxybai would have given Butt the idea in their xxxcloooosive jholachaap journalishhtik taaalksss.
Rajiv Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 I am going to the bettem of this :hysterical::haha:
Rajiv Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 Saj bhai and Oxybai would have given Butt the idea in their xxxcloooosive jholachaap journalishhtik taaalksss. nooooooooooooooooooooooo
asterix Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 Saj bhai and Oxybai would have given Butt the idea in their xxxcloooosive jholachaap journalishhtik taaalksss. I wouldn't be surprised..Given the latest Junoon Saj bhai is having of "EXPOSING" the English media..:giggle:
Shakthi Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 Saj bhai and Oxybai would have given Butt the idea in their xxxcloooosive jholachaap journalishhtik taaalksss. They ll have exclusive interviews on innocent until proven guilty
ina_jawaan Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 Certainly an unconvincing rebuttal but this might actually be one of the best things that has happened to Pakistan cricket, if it means the departure of the loathsome Butt. He is apparently nuniversally unpopular domestically and seen as no more than a croney of "Mr Ten percent". There remains the albeit slim possibility that popular pressure will lead to the appointment of a new board who can restore some semblance of good governance, transparency and integrity. This is clearly a desperate attempt to play the "foreign conspiracy" card in order to arrest his plumetting credibility. It won't succeed because most people in Pakistan, like ordinary people everywhere, are perfectly reasonable and can see through this kind of barrel scraping populism, once they have detatched themselves somewhat from the kind of hysterical and jingoistic nationalistic excess which unfortunately seems to afflict sports fans (and forums) in all countries. As Orwell wrote about international competitive sport in general - "There cannot be much doubt that the whole thing is bound up with the rise of nationalism — that is, with the lunatic modern habit of identifying oneself with large power units and seeing everything in terms of competitive prestige." These statements by Butt are everything to do with an internal power struggle in the PCB and very little to do with the issues of matchfixing and spotbetting. Those issues are now matters of international concern stemming primarily from the lack of regulation of betting in India and Pakistan because such forms of gambling are illegal (other forms of gambling such as the kinds of speculative share trading which have led us to the brink of a financial tsunami are perfectly legal). Until these forms of gambling are legalised and properly regulated international cricket will suffer repeated blows to its credibility. http://bit.ly/brSzE0
The Outsider Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 Certainly an unconvincing rebuttal but this might actually be one of the best things that has happened to Pakistan cricket, if it means the departure of the loathsome Butt. He is apparently nuniversally unpopular domestically and seen as no more than a croney of "Mr Ten percent". You completely fail to understand the general Paki mentality. Butt will become a national hero after this.
Ram Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 exactly .. they got a nasty habit of pissing on the hand that comes forward to help them. India tolerates their nonsense for decades doesn't mean the west will as well. Exactly, can you imagine ecb chairman Giles Clarke reaction when he heard Butt' press conference? :haha:
Rajiv Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 This is a complete HEAD BUTT, why would any board wanna play Pak again after such allegations?
Hindustani Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 Come on Guys, stop deleting my posts :--D :beee:
CSK Fan Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 This is a complete HEAD BUTT' date=' why would any board wanna play Pak again after such allegations?[/quote'] they won't. South Africa and New Zealand have already started expressing reservations
yoda Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 There is only one option left for the ICC. Ban these jokers till they can get their act together.
Hindustani Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 This is a complete HEAD BUTT' date=' why would any board wanna play Pak again after such allegations?[/quote'] Pakisatan can always play with Canada, UAE and may be some Scandinavian countries (if you get the drift) :haha: I wonders what does Bangladesh Board has to say on this ? SL and ENG tried to help pakisatani cricket and in return got bullets and match fixing accusations, what is the incentive for any country to help and play with pakistan in these tough times ?
ina_jawaan Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 You completely fail to understand the general Paki mentality. Butt will become a national hero after this. I may be naive in my optimistic view of human nature but it is an optimism (or naivette) I prefer to the cynicism of political manipulators like Butt and the jingoism of those who attribute to others their own irrational fears and insecurities.
Pak_Forever Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 You completely fail to understand the general Paki mentality. Butt will become a national hero after this. Perhaps you didn't watch the last ODI. The way Pakistan won, you will hardly see any team snatching victory from the jaw of defeat, but no majority over here and ICC are satisfied that the game was "fixed." I mean for goodness sake use your damn freakin head for a second and be rational for once in your life when it comes to topics involving Pakistan. What happened in Test was yes pretty much seems like cheating, but last ODI?? I mean come on! It's such a stupid allegation that it's beyond the limit of patheticness. Scoring pattern? I mean how on earth is it possible? They scored 4 runs per over? Why did bowlers and fielders let them take 4 runs? Alam batted slow? Oh I didn't know he was a beastly batsmen before? These are the joke allegations which have been thrown this time. What else is Butt supposed to say? Pathetic accusation deserve a Royal Pathetic Response, and yes Butt has finally done one thing right by throwing stupid dirt on stupid accusation back. According to you guys Pakistan is "guilty until proven innocent" so I know its not easy for you guys to process logic.
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