vaibhav_delhi Posted December 2, 2010 Posted December 2, 2010 Does a bowling attack of Steyn, Morkel, Tsotsobe/Parnell, Harris/Botha look as lethal as Donald, Pollock, Ntini, Adams/Symcox or Pollock, Ntini, Steyn/Morkel, Harris? Unless SA produce out and out fast bouncy pitches, their current attack doesn't look as potent as some of their previous attacks that we have faced. Among those I would say, steyn>donald>pollock>morkel =Ntini. And Kallis is still there. So basically, if they can get 1 more class bowler out of Parnell\Tsotsobe\DeWet their bowling would be as strong as past , perhaps.
Sachin=GOD Posted December 2, 2010 Posted December 2, 2010 Among those I would say' date=' [b']steyn>donald>pollock>morkel =Ntini. And Kallis is still there. So basically, if they can get 1 more class bowler out of ParnellTsotsobeDeWet their bowling would be as strong as past , perhaps. steyn better than white lightning:omg:
vaibhav_delhi Posted December 2, 2010 Posted December 2, 2010 steyn better than white lightning:omg: yes ofcourse
vaibhav_delhi Posted December 2, 2010 Posted December 2, 2010 please elaborate. well...steyn is quite visibly better than Donald who himself was great too. He has a strike rate of 40.4 balls per wicket.
Sachin=GOD Posted December 2, 2010 Posted December 2, 2010 well...steyn is quite visibly better than Donald who himself was great too. He has a strike rate of 40.4 balls per wicket. but strike rates don't tell the whole picture. Donald was one of the very few modern day bowlers who could actually terrorize the opponents and IMO he was a far better bowler on pitches which were not friendly to fast bowling.
Sid Posted December 2, 2010 Posted December 2, 2010 but strike rates don't tell the whole picture. Donald was one of the very few modern day bowlers who could actually terrorize the opponents and IMO he was a far better bowler on pitches which were not friendly to fast bowling.[/QUOTE] please elobrate,do you have any stats to back it up?
bihutoli Posted December 2, 2010 Posted December 2, 2010 but strike rates don't tell the whole picture. Donald was one of the very few modern day bowlers who could actually terrorize the opponents and IMO he was a far better bowler on pitches which were not friendly to fast bowling. That's imo stuff. Steyn has a few decent exploits on sub continental pitches as well. Overall though I agree with you, the SA bowling today does not carry the same threat that the old SA attack did.
jibranpatel15 Posted December 2, 2010 Posted December 2, 2010 SA don't need to be so tensed, i feel they have got settled line up aswell. What they need is just see the conditions and announce the squad. I FEEL THE BEST SQUAD IS: SMITH© PIETERSON AMLA KALLIS ABD DUMINY BOUCHER(wk) STEYN MORKEL VAN DER WATH HARRIS PARNELL TSOTSOBE I choose van der wath ahead of parnell and Tsotsobe b'coz he's underrated player in my views by CSA. He's good swing bowler,bowls wicket to wicket and when pitch has inconsistence bounce he is very useful bowler as he bowls at decent pace as well. And above all he can bet aswell. These days u need good tailenders to win test matches. I still remember his big hitting innings he played against Aus in 2006 when they chased 434 he scored 35 runs with 4 Sixes in about 20 balls(not sure abt balls). So they should pick him i feel it and hopefully they will pick him.
Sid Posted December 2, 2010 Posted December 2, 2010 SA don't need to be so tensed, i feel they have got settled line up aswell. What they need is just see the conditions and announce the squad. I FEEL THE BEST SQUAD IS: SMITH© PIETERSON AMLA KALLIS ABD DUMINY BOUCHER(wk) STEYN MORKEL VAN DER WATH HARRIS PARNELL TSOTSOBE I choose van der wath ahead of parnell and Tsotsobe b'coz he's underrated player in my views by CSA. He's good swing bowler,bowls wicket to wicket and when pitch has inconsistence bounce he is very useful bowler as he bowls at decent pace as well. And above all he can bet aswell. These days u need good tailenders to win test matches. I still remember his big hitting innings he played against Aus in 2006 when they chased 434 he scored 35 runs with 4 Sixes in about 20 balls(not sure abt balls). So they should pick him i feel it and hopefully they will pick him. :cantstop:
Feed Posted December 2, 2010 Posted December 2, 2010 Fiery pace attack beckons Indian batsmen in SA Andrew Hudson, convenor of selectors for the Proteas, said that South Africa would concentrate on its strong points when they announce their Test squad for the upcoming series against India. More... 'We will stick to our strength' Last updated on: December 2, 2010 Andrew Hudson, convenor of selectors for the Proteas, said that South Africa would concentrate on its strong points when they announce their Test squad for the upcoming series against India. "We will most probably choose just one spinner and depend on South Africa's traditional strength -- its pace attack," Hudson told the Afrikaans daily Beeld. Hence, India can expect a pace attack when they start touring in South Africa from December 16. 'India vulnerable to rising deliveries' "There was still a view among the South Africans that despite India's strength being their batting, they remained vulnerable to bounce balls," said Beeld cricket writer Altus Momberg. "This will be tested (against India) this summer," Momberg said, adding that Dale Steyn and Morne Morkel were extremely dangerous under South African conditions. The South African squad for the Test series against India will be announced at the end of this week. Team India arrive in SA on Dec 12 Momberg speculated that the proposed tactic of the South Africans was probably why Indian coach Gary Kirsten and ten members of his team, including captain Mahendra Singh Dhoni and Sachin Tendulkar, would arrive in Cape Town next Wednesday itself to get used to the South African conditions ahead of the first game on December 16. The rest of the team, still playing in a One-Day series against New Zealand, will only arrive in Johannesburg on December 12.
Dinx - the Jinx Posted December 2, 2010 Posted December 2, 2010 i hope it back fires for them. we have the batsmen to counter their so called fieriness
Ram Posted December 2, 2010 Posted December 2, 2010 This is probably the worst written article in the history of mankind. How old is the writer, 12? "We will most probably choose just one spinner and depend on South Africa's traditional strength -- its pace attack," Hudson told the Afrikaans daily Beeld. Hence, India can expect a pace attack when they start touring in South Africa from December 16. The guy's taken the word 'Captain Obvious' to a whole neeeeeeew level! "This will be tested (against India) this summer," Momberg said, adding that Dale Steyn and Morne Morkel were extremely dangerous under South African conditions Yes, like we would have never known else. :phehehe: "There was still a view among the South Africans that despite India's strength being their batting, they remained vulnerable to bounce balls," said Beeld cricket writer Altus Momberg. 'Bounce' balls? :blink:
Sachin=GOD Posted December 2, 2010 Posted December 2, 2010 Bangladesh vulnerable after double-whammy . wrong thread mate:winky:
kabira Posted December 2, 2010 Posted December 2, 2010 Andrew Hudson wsa pain in the ass when he batted, India was his favorite team
Guest Hiten. Posted December 3, 2010 Posted December 3, 2010 LOL! Do these guys realize that the likes of RSD, SRT, Viru, VVS and GG will be facing the attack and not the Rohits, Yusufs in tests ? If they think short deliveries will bother these lads, then all I can say is good luck to RSA. India really need the RSA curators to fall in their own trap by laying out green pitch. A drawn series or India win, it's the only way the result's gonna go.
fineleg Posted December 3, 2010 Posted December 3, 2010 drawn series or India win' date=' it's the only way the result's gonna go.[/quote'] blue bri Are you saying that SA will not win the series if lively pitches are provided? (or are you saying that SA will not win the series no matter what the pitches?) Either way - I do think that SA have an excellent chance to win since their batting lineup is very strong and they are well versed with the conditions there. Bowling wise, SteynGun (and to some extent Morkel's bounce) will be the differentiating factor. But more than all of this - I think the fielding/catching will make the final difference. The Proteas will convert half chances into catches and runouts. That can be a huge asset to their bowlers. So, saying that only a draw or India win is the only way the result's gonna go is quite likely to backfire. Having said that, this is the best chance for India given it has got a great Test team. India does have a good chance to fight and can (hopefully) make a memorable series, but they certainly dont start favorites. Not by a long shot.
vamos_rafa Posted December 3, 2010 Posted December 3, 2010 This can backfire or it may not. We will have to wait for the series to begin only then would we come to know how well our batsmen would be able to adapt. As per Hudson's suggestions that we struggle with "Bounce" balls i think it's wrong. Our record in Aus should prove that. But in general our batters have struggled in SA. That's more so coz in SA the balls bounces and it moves around a lot as well. This does not happen that much in places like Aus or Eng. But off late teams which have tried to go ahead and bounce our batters out have generally struggled. But then you are talking about bowlers like Steyn,Morkel. It's gonna be one heck of a series for sure...:yay:
jibranpatel15 Posted December 3, 2010 Posted December 3, 2010 well well well guys can any1 tell me where did INDIA win a test series outside Asia in Last 2YRS A part frrom NZ ???????? Please guys accept the truth INDIA is gonna struggle in all ways of cricket wether batting/bowling/fielding. SA is better in all aspects of the game and INDIA is playing in their own backyard where they r born and know every bit of their weather and pitches. On a lively wicket INDIA can bowl better yes but SA can bowl better than INDIA as they are much familier to those conditions. Even if IND draw this series its like WIN for them and this is the real deal INDIA now need to prove that they r NO.1 only by winning this series in SA other wise everyone knows INDIA is at NO.1 oonly bcoz they did not play outside ASIA these 2yrs.
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