kabira Posted December 20, 2010 Posted December 20, 2010 I was checking Kallis's summary against different coutnry..Every player has poor record against one of the teams. Kallis seems to have problem against Lanka, be at home or away...What could be the reason? only 33 against Lanka and what more in England he averages 29....:omg::omg::omg: Does that mean he struggles against Swing??
dial_100 Posted December 20, 2010 Posted December 20, 2010 May be it is hard to say. Need to check out some videos before commenting on that. But if he is really that poor in England then yes, swing is what gets him.
coffee_rules Posted December 20, 2010 Posted December 20, 2010 What's his record in Aus? I reckon it's not that great either. Not ATG material for these reasons.
thongale Posted December 20, 2010 Posted December 20, 2010 Since Kallis' debut, he averages more in SL than Tendulkar in matches involving Murali, since 2000 (i.e. Kallis' first match in SL). So by stats picking you can do anything. Kallis found it tough against Murali in SL (as did Tendulkar post 2000 era). In SAf against SL he was unfortunate to be at the wrong end of few "once in five years" Fernando spells. His stats against ENG, I don't know why they are so poor. Kallis may not be as good as Sachin or Lara, but definitely ATG. As a player he's up their in top 10 ATGs like Imran, Bradman and Sobers.
achilles Posted December 20, 2010 Posted December 20, 2010 I seriously hope Indian cricketers and team management are active users on ICF.
kabira Posted December 20, 2010 Author Posted December 20, 2010 against aussies 40 odd and at home against Aussies is still worse..i.e 35
kabira Posted December 20, 2010 Author Posted December 20, 2010 Since Kallis' debut, he averages more in SL than Tendulkar in matches involving Murali, since 2000 (i.e. Kallis' first match in SL). So by stats picking you can do anything. Kallis found it tough against Murali in SL (as did Tendulkar post 2000 era). In SAf against SL he was unfortunate to be at the wrong end of few "once in five years" Fernando spells. His stats against ENG, I don't know why they are so poor. Kallis may not be as good as Sachin or Lara, but definitely ATG. As a player he's up their in top 10 ATGs like Imran, Bradman and Sobers. via post 2000?? well his record against Lanka even in SA is no good...Guess Murli harassed him there too.. Also he always had trouble playing/picking shane warne..
thongale Posted December 20, 2010 Posted December 20, 2010 via post 2000?? well his record against Lanka even in SA is no good...Guess Murli harassed him there too.. Also he always had trouble playing/picking shane warne..Kallis first played in SL in 2000 series. in SAF it was Murali + Fernando who gave him trouble. Fernando had two dream spells against Kallis where he beat him right, left and center before getting him. Harassed by Murali is no shame. But being at the wrong end of a Fernando spell is only better tha being end of a such Agarkar spell.
saneindian Posted December 20, 2010 Posted December 20, 2010 Since Kallis' debut' date= he averages more in SL than Tendulkar in matches involving Murali, since 2000 (i.e. Kallis' first match in SL). So by stats picking you can do anything. Kallis found it tough against Murali in SL (as did Tendulkar post 2000 era). In SAf against SL he was unfortunate to be at the wrong end of few "once in five years" Fernando spells. His stats against ENG, I don't know why they are so poor. Kallis may not be as good as Sachin or Lara, but definitely ATG. As a player he's up their in top 10 ATGs like Imran, Bradman and Sobers. Lol and you accuse others of doing stats picking!!
Serani Posted December 20, 2010 Posted December 20, 2010 Yeh he is a clear minnow basher, runs against Zim, BD and India just shouldnt count, what a mediocre FTB.
The Outsider Posted December 20, 2010 Posted December 20, 2010 Useless FTB. Can't even understand why South Africa play him, if all he does is bash minnows. Same with his bowling, can't be bothered to check at the moment but after running a stats guru query I will be sure to create a thread asking why he averages below 35 against some team.
kabira Posted December 20, 2010 Author Posted December 20, 2010 This was not to bash Kallis, I see thread going in that direction. Everyone has a poor record against one or two teams. Even Rahul has struggled in Lanka, I think he does not even have 100 there. I was just surprised to see Kallis record in England and overall record against SL.
Serani Posted December 20, 2010 Posted December 20, 2010 Batting in England isnt exactly the easiest of tasks.
Ravi. Posted December 20, 2010 Posted December 20, 2010 Lol Now Tendulkar. fans are jealous of Kallis.
King Tendulkar Posted December 20, 2010 Posted December 20, 2010 Batting in England isnt exactly the easiest of tasks. Good point. O by the way Tendulkar averages 62 in England!
Serani Posted December 20, 2010 Posted December 20, 2010 Good point. O by the way Tendulkar averages 62 in England! Yes I know he is great isnt he. Of all the India bashing I do there is one guy I have never and will never criticise.
Malcolm Merlyn Posted December 20, 2010 Posted December 20, 2010 Kallis avgs 40 i guess againist AUS.
kabira Posted December 20, 2010 Author Posted December 20, 2010 Yes I know he is great isnt he. Of all the India bashing I do there is one guy I have never and will never criticise. check out Dravid and Ganguly's average too while you are at it. :finger::finger::finger:
Robelinda Posted December 21, 2010 Posted December 21, 2010 Kallis has failed in England, even in tests where BIG runs were scored, he was not getting out to swing. It doesnt swing in every ground over there. I'm guessing he's made 3 tours to England? The last one was hopeless. Not just one bowler either.
thongale Posted December 21, 2010 Posted December 21, 2010 Lol and you accuse others of doing stats picking!!Why don't you use your time to read the post fully rather than boldfacing and underlining it and replying rubbish?:--D
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