Fontaine Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 And here's to all the people that say it doesn't matter how long Sree takes to bowl his overs etc and Dhoni should never ask Sree to get through his overs on time: In accordance with the ICC regulations regarding minor over-rate offences, players are fined 10% of their match fees for every over their side fails to bowl in the allotted time, with the captain fined double that amount. So, MS Dhoni was fined 60% while his players received 30% fines. If Dhoni is found guilty of two further minor over-rate offences in Tests over the next 12 months, he will receive a one-match suspension. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/current/story/495655.html
spectre Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 I dont believe you all are supporting this joker for all his antics How can his performance be proportional to his nonsensical spouting is beyond me. He is an international sportsmen playing for his country at the highest stage. If that doesnt motivate him but a continous stream of abuses at everyone will, then there is something seriously wrong with both him and his fans. How many times will a captain have to take this crap. I am sure Sreesanth has been told about this in every damn tone a million times before. Sledging is different, thats mainly done to distract the opposition, and not to end up looking a clown and distract yourself in that process. I dont see him as highly passionate but a wannabe attention seeker
achilles Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Fast bowlers are known to be mercurial. But then selective fining is not a healthy practice. White players headbutt each other, Steyn spat at Benn, white players brandish bats, humiliate the opposite ranks' families and the whites seldom get fined. Our boys kick a rope and get fined. Bollocks.
achilles Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Dhoni is a poor man-manager. I'm absolutely CERTAIN that for Sourav Ganguly, his players' morale meant more than sycophancy.
hari504504 Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Dhoni is a poor man-manager. I'm absolutely CERTAIN that for Sourav Ganguly' date=' his players' morale meant more than sycophancy.[/quote'] ditto !. I miss him now !... I've no hope of Dhoni 'grooming' any youngsters into champions the way Ganguly groomed so many..
asterix Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Yeah! Well done captain..If only you would've done a better job in other aspects of captaincy like field placings, bowling changes and leading by example..The series could've a more positive result for India.. India is managing to draw this series DISPITE your pathetic captaincy..
hari504504 Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Going by this scale of punishment.. Merv Hughes and Mc.Grath would've been hung by the neck at the nearest Town Square..
achilles Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 I dont believe you all are supporting this joker for all his antics How can his performance be proportional to his nonsensical spouting is beyond me. He is an international sportsmen playing for his country at the highest stage. If that doesnt motivate him but a continous stream of abuses at everyone will, then there is something seriously wrong with both him and his fans. How many times will a captain have to take this crap. I am sure Sreesanth has been told about this in every damn tone a million times before. Sledging is different, thats mainly done to distract the opposition, and not to end up looking a clown and distract yourself in that process. I dont see him as highly passionate but a wannabe attention seeker Why does everyone has different whips for the same kind of behaviour by different people? If Steyn does it, fine. If Zaheer does it, fine. If Sreesanth does it, hey, its bollocks. He's a human being for heavens' sake. Read this- As I said earlier, it’s not easy to be Shanthakumaran Sreesanth. Playing in a foreign country, fighting for a place in the side, bowling against a very good batting line up, taunted by the crowds, attacked by the opposition captain, ridiculed by the media, isolated by your own teammates, and with no support from your captain. It’s a situation that can break any man. But not this break dancer. With everything stacked against him, he took the second new ball and bowled as well as anyone ever has at the Newlands in Capetown, putting his team into a position of strength in the all important deciding test match. We all know that Sreesanth can be a bit of an ass sometimes. But, by rising above all these challenges thrown at him, he has won a new fan in me and, I suspect, thousands others across the country. Well done Sree. May you bowl like this for years to come
hari504504 Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 As I said earlier, it’s not easy to be Shanthakumaran Sreesanth. Playing in a foreign country, fighting for a place in the side, bowling against a very good batting line up, taunted by the crowds, attacked by the opposition captain, ridiculed by the media, isolated by your own teammates, and with no support from your captain. It’s a situation that can break any man. Rewind a bit more... Sreesanth was left stranded by his own State Cricket Board for allegedly not "respecting" the board members. Like Harbhajan he was at the brink of leaving cricket, and take the usual engineering path
achilles Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Rewind a bit more... Sreesanth was left stranded by his own State Cricket Board for allegedly not "respecting" the board members. Like Harbhajan he was at the brink of leaving cricket' date=' and take the usual engineering path[/quote'] In India, some players get away with a lot of stuff and some get jacked real bad. We are champions of lifting someone on our shoulders when he does something good and kicking him in his groin when he's down and then also going back to lifting him on our shoulders when he comes out of his bad spell.
achilles Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 ditto !. I miss him now !... I've no hope of Dhoni 'grooming' any youngsters into champions the way Ganguly groomed so many.. C'mon mate. Thats a touch harsh now. He's groomed- 1. Joginder Sharma, the most epic fast bowler of all time. 2. Manpreet Gony, who did enough at CSK in simply ONE season to earn an Indian cap. 3. Ravindra Jadeja the allrounder of Legendary value. 4. RP Singh, a bowler who Dhoni trusts so much that he's kept him out of the team. As in, we are being harsh to Dhoni. We're looking beyond ourselves. Manpreet is a far superior bowler than Sreesanth. Heck even Jogi is. Do you see the beauty with which they bowl those 110kph balls? These are far superior players to back, than Sreesanth. What if Sreesanth almost won us an inning? For Dhoni, it is more important that he(Dhoni) doesn't get banned for a game. So not getting banned > a match-winning session. Kudos. What if he's mishandled and neglected performers like Ojha? He's a good captain. I mean, he loves his players so much that he backs them by insulting them on a cricket field, at press conferences and will also be the first person to say, "dude, you are not performing well. You are dropped". But hey, he's doing some ancient voodoo to motivate his players by demoralizing them here. Clearly, we are overreacting. All Hail MS Dhoni on this issue. [/rant]
achilles Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 ^ C'mon mate. Thats unfair. Its in the spirit of the game to ask a player how his captain's dick tastes like.
rkt.india Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 here is nothing wrong in sledging ro saying something to batsmen..every team does this...but the main problem with Sreeshanth is he shows them on his face while others like harris and steyn do it look and flat faced and try to be innocent and also he thinks he is the only one who gets angry, excited, or has adrenalin in his veins....if he wants to sledge he needs not to show his emotions and expressions..this is not a bollywood film to show his acting skills...
rkt.india Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 we have players like SRT, RD, Kumble to show that you can perform well without any antics or verbal abuses....these players' performance speaks for itself..they do not need to abuse to do that...if anyone supports Sreesanth..then that is ridiculous
achilles Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 we have players like SRT' date=' RD, Kumble to show that you can perform well without any antics or verbal abuses....these players' performance speaks for itself..they do not need to abuse to do that...if anyone supports Sreesanth..then that is ridiculous[/quote'] Every human being is unique.
asterix Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 we have players like SRT' date=' RD, Kumble to show that you can perform well without any antics or verbal abuses....these players' performance speaks for itself..they do not need to abuse to do that...if anyone supports Sreesanth..then that is ridiculous[/quote'] Did you had the same view during SydneyGate? The whole team, management and BCCI stood up for Harbhajan. Have you seen how Bhajan used to make faces, sledging and do antics? Where were Sachin, Dravid & Kumble? They were right there and supporting Bhajji..Kumble was the captain.. Where was Sachin? Sitting as a witness in the courtroom, backing his teammate, Bhajan.. Do you know how much Sreesanth has to cop up from the umpires, SA players and not the least, the partisan crown and we have a khassi dant-nipora (grinning) captain making fun of his bowler, right there, on the field.. Every player goes through certain phases. Every human being is different..
spectre Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Dont you feel it ONLY happens to Sreesanth only every effing time. He gets slapped by his own teammate in public, his IPL captain humiliated him, his state association warned and disowned him. and now Dhoni after hinting so many times about his behavior now publicly warns him. I havent seen that or dont see that happening to any other player ( no matter indian or foreign) Anyone else would have had an introspection, changed himself and concentrate on his game ( if he values that Indian cap) Instead he does the same nonsense again and again. Its not working for him, so why not stop it, rather make a fuss out of it. Zaheer after every ball in that 2nd innings of the 2nd test went to the batsman and kept blabbering. Did anyone complain and make an issue of it, be it the opposition or his own captain or the media. If it happens only to Sreesanth and happens every time, there is a reason. There is more to this than what we see on TV. Every human being is unique.
achilles Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Andy Pycroft is a member of the Elite Panel of ICC Match Referees since March 2009.
asterix Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Dont you feel it ONLY happens to Sreesanth only every effing time. He gets slapped by his own teammate in public, his IPL captain humiliated him, his state association warned and disowned him. and now Dhoni after hinting so many times about his behavior now publicly warns him. I havent seen that or dont see that happening to any other player ( no matter indian or foreign) Anyone else would have had an introspection, changed himself and concentrate on his game ( if he values that Indian cap) Instead he does the same nonsense again and again. Its not working for him, so why not stop it, rather make a fuss out of it. Zaheer after every ball in that 2nd innings of the 2nd test went to the batsman and kept blabbering. Did anyone complain and make an issue of it, be it the opposition or his own captain or the media. If it happens only to Sreesanth and happens every time, there is a reason. There is more to this than what we see on TV. Looks like you don't know Harbhajan's antics over the past ten years and how well capabale captains handles him and backed him..
achilles Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Dont you feel it ONLY happens to Sreesanth only every effing time. He gets slapped by his own teammate in public, his IPL captain humiliated him, his state association warned and disowned him. and now Dhoni after hinting so many times about his behavior now publicly warns him. I havent seen that or dont see that happening to any other player ( no matter indian or foreign) Anyone else would have had an introspection, changed himself and concentrate on his game ( if he values that Indian cap) Instead he does the same nonsense again and again. Its not working for him, so why not stop it, rather make a fuss out of it. Zaheer after every ball in that 2nd innings of the 2nd test went to the batsman and kept blabbering. Did anyone complain and make an issue of it, be it the opposition or his own captain or the media. If it happens only to Sreesanth and happens every time, there is a reason. There is more to this than what we see on TV. I will never believe anyone who says Sree swore on someone's family. That boy has some solid Indian roots and he's a gem of a guy off the field. On the field, he is aggressive, in your face, passionate and awesome at his art when on song. I have said this all the time that Sreesanth would've been a legend had he been an Aussie or a Pom. And for us, he would have done a fantastic job under Dada's captaincy, who chooses to back his players, fights his own board for Harbhajan Singh, who was similarly disowned and who was a few days away from flying to Canada to drive trucks for a living. Just because Sree doesn't sledge with a smile on his face is not reason enough to humiliate this guy beyond limit. It is the job of the opposition to cry in the public and we've seen that happen everywhere all the time. But for Dhoni to first humiliate him in the press conference (a disgraceful act of sycophancy) then on the ground then laugh at him when the guy gets bottles thrown at him then humiliate him in the hotel.... for heaven sake, that guy is a friggin human being. No one does this to anyone, even to his worst enemy. This is gotta stop, before we lose a potential spearhead of our attack. We've lost Irfan, we've lost Murali Karthik, we've lost RP Singh, we've lost a lot of players. I'm sure everyone is gonna gang up on Sree for the 30% loss of match fee due to slow overrate in this game, eventhough he's done NOTHING in this game. Enough is enough.
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