vvvslaxman Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 I know this is probably the last thing on our plate to discuss about. With such a powerful batting line up you would not even think about tail-end contribution. But we cannot rule out a situation where our tail needs to step up. Both against England and SA our tail folded meekly. In 2003 world cup, Australia faced similar scenario. Andy Bichel played like a man possessed. Our tail doesn't even have to do that. The least they can do is play out 50 overs. Every other match we fail to bat out 50 overs. Is it because they just take it for granted that our top order is too strong? If they are total noobs i would agree. But Bhajji and Zak are more than capable of sticking there.
theanalyst Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Shocking display against SA but you've got a pretty good tail (Harby and Zaheer). I'm guessing that Patel and Nehra won't play together again so that will make it even stronger. I don't think that you can afford more than one absolute bunny today. 9, 10 and Jack should be able to block atleast. It will come down to how they play under pressure. Some of them lose their heads (like vs SA) but they've got the ability.
Switchblade Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Yes Bhaj and Zak are more than capable but il rely more towards Bhaj coz hes more consistent less said abt Munaf and Nehra the better it is if u look at the other team u have Kulasekra Malinga frm S.A Steyn Pieterson England theres Bres and Swan all the mentioned names atleast show intent to fight it out there while if u see joker like Nehra or Munaf they dont even have the mental toughness to fight it out there and contribute some useful runs it seems they just go out there for the sake of it
Karan114 Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 I don't think that you can afford more than one absolute bunny today. 9' date=' 10 and Jack should be able to block atleast.[/quote'] Munaf and Nehra can neither bat nor field. Not that their bowling is great, of course :((
vvvslaxman Posted March 14, 2011 Author Posted March 14, 2011 Munaf and Nehra can neither bat nor field. Not that their bowling is great' date=' of course :(([/quote'] That is the worst part. Not good in any department. Gosh i miss Irfan Pathan.
VRV Singh Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 I'm sure they can step up if required..against SA the whole team barring 1-3 was in brainfart mode so not much to read into for the tail. Munna bhai is just hopeless..judging from his stance and technique I am not sure anyone's told him how to hold a bat before :cantstop: Other than that we're fine, stronger if Ashwin replaces Nehra or Munna as expected for next game
theanalyst Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Munaf and Nehra can neither bat nor field. Not that their bowling is great' date=' of course :(([/quote'] You've got to have two skills to play limited overs cricket today (main skill plus something else like fielding, part-time bowling or lower order hitter). Exceptions can be made only if you're bloody awesome in your main skill. I don't think that those two will play in the same match again. That should make the batting stronger.
Sachin=GOD Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Yes Bhaj and Zak are more than capable but il rely more towards Bhaj coz hes more consistent less said abt Munaf and Nehra the better it is if u look at the other team u have Kulasekra Malinga frm S.A Steyn Pieterson England theres Bres and Swan all the mentioned names atleast show intent to fight it out there while if u see joker like Nehra or Munaf they dont even have the mental toughness to fight it out there and contribute some useful runs it seems they just go out there for the sake of it they try to frighten the opposition by showing their :--D:--D On a serious note, Zak and Bhajji are the only ones who can bat among our bowlers. Here again Praveen Kumar is sorely missed :hitler: he was a much better batsman than Nehra/Munaf.
Switchblade Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Pathan was practising in kotla was having net sessions saw his vedio today released by DD
Sachin=GOD Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 You've got to have two skills to play limited overs cricket today (main skill plus something else like fielding, part-time bowling or lower order hitter). Exceptions can be made only if you're bloody awesome in your main skill. I don't think that those two will play in the same match again. That should make the batting stronger. Both of them are bloody awesome at showing their :--D:--D when they are hit for runs or when they misfield or get out on 0 while trying to bat. Other than that they may also be considered as part time bowlers :hehe:
theanalyst Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Both of them are bloody awesome at showing their :--D:--D when they are hit for runs or when they misfield or get out on 0 while trying to bat. Other than that they may also be considered as part time bowlers :hehe: I must admit that I love watching Patel bat. He is up there with Tufnell, Chris Martin, Walsh and Murali for sheer entertainment. I guess he is following the old Indian tailenders. I remember watching the great spinners bat (Chandra, Pras and Bedi). Absolutely shocking players.
Switchblade Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Ishant had turned into a decent batsman hes not in the team though
fineleg Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Nehra and Munna are the worst #10 and #11 in Intl cricket. ZK can certainly bat, but he tries to go for the big swipe six, and gets out. Bhajji is certainly capable of a 30 if he puts his mind to it.
Little_Master Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Imagine a tail after the regular 7 batsmen: no 8 irfaan pathan no 9 praveen kumar no 10 Bajji no 11 Zak :yay:
Little_Master Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Both of them are bloody awesome at showing their :--D:--D when they are hit for runs or when they misfield or get out on 0 while trying to bat. Other than that they may also be considered as part time bowlers :hehe: One guy who can make the likes of Nehra and Munna look like decent batsmen Our very own "VENKATAPATHY RAJU" :--D
Sachin=GOD Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Imagine a tail after the regular 7 batsmen: no 8 irfaan pathan no 9 praveen kumar no 10 Bajji no 11 Zak :yay: jaane kahan gaye woh din......:((
Switchblade Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Sach its also upto an individual wether he takes his batting seriously or not which these guys dont now what surprises me is that the coaching staff dont they work with these guys these guys have been playing for a while now
Karan114 Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Ishant had turned into a decent batsman hes not in the team though Yes he's a good blocker and all credit to him, he's improved through hard work despite a very limited ability. Munaf and Nehra can't even be bothered to improve even that much despite being much older than Ishant.
theanalyst Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Doesn't India have the 'batting buddy' system where one top order player becomes the batting coach of a lower order player? Australia and England have had it for a while.
Sachin=GOD Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 Sach its also upto an individual wether he takes his batting seriously or not which these guys dont now what surprises me is that the coaching staff dont they work with these guys these guys have been playing for a while now with the kind of bowling and fielding that Nehra/Munaf are doing in matches, I doubt if the coaching staff would have any time left to concentrate on their batting :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: but yeah, they should concentrate on batting just a little bit more - they have got an outstanding example in Bhajji, a man who has improved his batting by leaps and bounds in the past few months.
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