yoda Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Stops the whining biatches. When guys like Gilly walk people call it fake, when guys like Ponting stay you call him a cheat. Stop making a fool out of yourselves.
Raghav_12 Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 When did Ponting make the comment that all batsmen should walk after edging the ball? Sorry guys' date=' I must have missed it.[/quote'] I also don't think that Ponting sholud be called a cheat for not walking. But with all these reactions Ponting is only reaping dividends of what he sowed over last 16 years.
littlemaster1982 Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 When did Ponting make the comment that all batsmen should walk after edging the ball? Sorry guys' date=' I must have missed it.[/quote'] Presentation Ceremony of Ind vs Aus, 7th ODI 2007 series Man of the Match - its Kartik for his six wickets and unbeaten 21 to help steer India home. Big cheers for him. He had the best figures for an Indian against Australia. "It was a great effort at the end of the day ... by God's grace it worked out well for me ... there was some spin and I had to mix it up ... its the best I've bowled in a match ... figure-wise, this would be the best ... we had some fun batting out there ... cracking jokes helped us through ... and yes, I did nick one through to the keeper (big smile)!" Ponting comes up last: "We fought really hard with ball but didnt have enough runs ... always hard defending that score ... Murali's just admitted he nicked that one but it would've been nice if he'd walked (grins) ... congratulations to India ... we've won this series and now look forward to the Twenty20." http://www.espncricinfo.com/indvaus/engine/match/297799.html?innings=2;page=1;view=commentary
CSK Fan Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Stops the whining biatches. When guys like Gilly walk people call it fake' date=' when guys like Ponting stay you call him a cheat. Stop making a fool out of yourselves.[/quote'] Its his own doing isnt it? He was the one making tall claims and statement in almost every series about taking the fieldsman's word and walking, etc. He deserves all the flak
Ultimate_Game Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Yeah' date=' being a weekend I've been watching the match. Can't see how people can be labeled as cheats based on facial expressions. Bottom line is no one walks after edging it. It's nuts to call people cheats for not walking.[/quote'] The issue is not whether anyone walks after edging. Almost nobody does and in a professional sport I don't expect anyone to and that's why we were p*ssed off at Dhoni and our bowlers for not appealing for edges Strauss had instead of Strauss. And that's why we were upset at Bucknor for not giving Symonds out and not Symonds for not walking. If another player or captain, say Smith, hadn't walked it would have been fine but in Ponting's case the point is the double standards and hypocrisy. He is the guy who talked about "taking fielder's word", "honesty and integrity" and similar bullc**p. India paid dearly for it in our last tour when Kumble took him at his face value. Not all the other players have proposed and preached this stuff other than Ponting and when the time comes to walk the walk he backs off and suddently the new rule is "I am out only if the umpire says so".
Square Drive Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Not a big issue. The game of cricket is at a different competitive level nowadays. There aren't too many batsmen who walks every time on those situations specially when they were in bad form. Only two batsmen I have noticed do/did it regularly is Sanga and Gilcrist. I remember Sanga walked in a match against Eng where bowler and the the WK didn't even appeal. Most important thing was Sanga were in a very poor form during this period. http://www.espncricinfo.com/slveng/engine/match/291219.html?innings=1;type=wickets;view=commentary 14.1 Broad to Sangakkara, OUT, and he's walked! How extraordinary. Wide of the off stump, Sangakkara cut and missed, the ball flying through to Mustard who didn't appeal. And nor did Broad...but Sangakkara tucked his bat under his arm and marched off. A poor piece of cricket. It was the thinnest of edges, and no England player appealed, yet Sangakkara marched off to cause confused (albeit delighted) expressions from England's fielders KC Sangakkara c †Mustard b Broad 9 (41m 25b 0x4 0x6) SR: 36.00 :hatsoff:
PakSwinger Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Yeah' date=' being a weekend I've been watching the match. Can't see how people can be labeled as cheats based on facial expressions. Bottom line is no one walks after edging it. It's nuts to call people cheats for not walking.[/quote'] OutSider....I agree that you shouldn't walk if the umpire hasn't given it out...but...Ponting claimed that the UDRS should not be used ...instead the batsmen should take the fielder's word ...and yet when kamran akmal caught one (finally).. he didn't budge.........the man is a two faced liar
99.94 Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 Presentation Ceremony of Ind vs Aus' date= 7th ODI 2007 series Man of the Match - its Kartik for his six wickets and unbeaten 21 to help steer India home. Big cheers for him. He had the best figures for an Indian against Australia. "It was a great effort at the end of the day ... by God's grace it worked out well for me ... there was some spin and I had to mix it up ... its the best I've bowled in a match ... figure-wise, this would be the best ... we had some fun batting out there ... cracking jokes helped us through ... and yes, I did nick one through to the keeper (big smile)!" Ponting comes up last: "We fought really hard with ball but didnt have enough runs ... always hard defending that score ... Murali's just admitted he nicked that one but it would've been nice if he'd walked (grins) ... congratulations to India ... we've won this series and now look forward to the Twenty20." http://www.espncricinfo.com/indvaus/engine/match/297799.html?innings=2;page=1;view=commentary Notice the part that says 'grins'?
99.94 Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 Its his own doing isnt it? He was the one making tall claims and statement in almost every series about taking the fieldsman's word and walking' date=' etc. He deserves all the flak[/quote'] Taking fielder's word, not walking after you edge it.
Anakin Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 That might make Ponting a hypocrite. How does it make him a cheat? I am surprised you ask this question. Probably you didn't watch the Batnor's swansong and Ponting's acting. And probably it's not always the best idea to compare everyone and every incident with Sachin, unless you are fan boy :giggle:
pensionplan Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 You are such a person that you will side with almost anyone just to get at Sachin, wont you. Loser attitude. Do you suffer from amnesia that you dont remember Ponting asking everyone to take the fielder's word when a catch is disputed? How does that make Ponting a cheat as the thread title says? And on top of that when Sachin=God types jump the gun to label others cheats as one can see in reply#17 for example it sometimes helps to show how it feels when the shoe is on the other foot. BTW, I dont support batsmen walking and dont have much issues with Ponting standinng his ground this time. Umpires/tech are there for a reason
Sachin=GOD Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 How does that make Ponting a cheat as the thread title says? And on top of that when Sachin=God types jump the gun to label others cheats as one can see in reply#17 for example it sometimes helps to show how it feels when the shoe is on the other foot. Thanks for the compliment, highly appreciated :nice:
Watson87 Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 What are you guys talking about? There was no edge, it deflected his thigh pad, you guys are too much, Punter was unlucky here. Stop whining and think about the Windies game.
DomainK Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 Presentation Ceremony of Ind vs Aus' date= 7th ODI 2007 series Man of the Match - its Kartik for his six wickets and unbeaten 21 to help steer India home. Big cheers for him. He had the best figures for an Indian against Australia. "It was a great effort at the end of the day ... by God's grace it worked out well for me ... there was some spin and I had to mix it up ... its the best I've bowled in a match ... figure-wise, this would be the best ... we had some fun batting out there ... cracking jokes helped us through ... and yes, I did nick one through to the keeper (big smile)!" Ponting comes up last: "We fought really hard with ball but didnt have enough runs ... always hard defending that score ... Murali's just admitted he nicked that one but it would've been nice if he'd walked (grins) ... congratulations to India ... we've won this series and now look forward to the Twenty20." http://www.espncricinfo.com/indvaus/engine/match/297799.html?innings=2;page=1;view=commentary :haha: Hypocrisy there. But nothing new. With Ponting, it's always the same story.
Bradman99 Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 It would've been nice if he'd walked.. He's not saying he had to, is he? Just saying it would of been nice.. I don't see the point in staying at the crease when you know you have knicked it, especially now with the referrals in place. Ponting is not doing his image any good at this WC for several reasons. First it was the tv, then his little dummy with Smith and now this.. Oh but miost importantly he is playing like ****. as he has for some time..
Debutant Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 You cant label Ponting a cheat just because he did not walk after edging.Thats the job of an umpire to give him out.But nobody can deny that Ponting is a hypocrite,arrogant and bully.
panesarv Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 That nick was huge. What's the point of standing there especially with review system in place. Stupid!
King Posted March 20, 2011 Posted March 20, 2011 Ponting has been cheat in several instances but not last night. It's his right not to walk, there's a paid umpire standing making a decision. That said Ponting was always going to be found out, I'd say he's dumb for standing his ground knowing fully well DRS will be used or he's in such a bad nick he was devastated to have hit the ball so panicked by the usual practice of not walking. Not walking is not cheating, Tendulkars, Dravids don't walk either. This is not a kids cricket club officiated by parents as umpires, there are paid umpires doing the job and it's your choice not to walk.
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