Dhoni and his youngistan

[Sid]

Suddenly this world cup win has made Dhoni look like a superman and Youngsters as X-Men. Lets have a reality check: MOS -> Yuvraj Singh TOP batsmen -> Sachin,Gambhir, Sehwag, Yuvraj. Top Bowlers -> ZK, Yuvi, Patel, Bhajji. MSD age ->29. Also - people are underestimating the value of hardcore soft forces "inpiration", "Motivation" - which are more important than cricketing skills to bring about best in you. How many people said (or meant) - We want to win the Cup for Dhoni?, Or how many players said - Dhoni inspired us to win the cup for Sachin? Couple of talks about Sachin, Yuvi, Gambhir, Kirsten and then back to - dhoni, dhoni, dhoni, youngistan, youngistan, youngistan.... Dhoni did great with captaincy - but all this talk about youngistan & "Dhoni best ever to walk the earth" is ....crap.

He is being talked about becoz he is the captain,he gets the praise when team wins and he would have been the single person getting the flak if we were on the losing side.

[akshayxyz]

He is being talked about becoz he is the captain' date='he gets the praise when team wins and he would have been the single person getting the flak if we were on the losing side.[/quote'] true - I reckon its same set of people - "thaali ke baingan".

[jpkonline]

Yuvi made his debut in 2000' date=' Gambhir in 2003. Dhoni was the Kaptaan. Yes all were youngsters, Too many visits on Green Phorum this days?[/quote'] gambhir might have made his debut but was he given a chance to play ? he just played 20-30 games from 2003-2007 it was dhoni who backed him and give him more chances. even ysuf pathan has come under captaincy of dhoni can we say he was grooming under dhoni ?? how can players do well without having proper backing from his captain

[Andy]

gambhir might have made his debut but was he given a chance to play ? he just played 20-30 games from 2003-2007 it was dhoni who backed him and give him more chances. even ysuf pathan has come under captaincy of dhoni can we say he was grooming under dhoni ?? how can players do well without having proper backing from his captain

Doesnt make him a Youngster, acc. To Your Logic a 30 year Old making his Debut would be an Youngster.

[maniac]

gambhir might have made his debut but was he given a chance to play ? he just played 20-30 games from 2003-2007 it was dhoni who backed him and give him more chances. even ysuf pathan has come under captaincy of dhoni can we say he was grooming under dhoni ?? how can players do well without having proper backing from his captain

Point taken.I have always agreed that Dhoni has qualties like calmness under pressure,management skills and to some extent innovativeness(Although he has been more conservative in recent times) but the OP here talks about Dhoni's vision in developing a young team for the future not backing his contemporaries. I still don't think that Dhoni has been a visionary in terms of spotting and grooming talent.he has time on his hands,let us see how he would go about it.so far his picks apart from Ashwin have been duds.

[Praveen M]

:hysterical:

[vaibhav_delhi]

abe ab to samajh jao...kitna kuch jita diya in such a short span of time, sirf 3.5 years of captaincy as yet... although there's no proof of this, but I feel that if we had a dhoni from 1996 to 2005, we would have been world beaters with the same set of players that we had back then(kumble, srinath, dravid etc)....