The Outsider Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 http://www.saibaba-x.org.uk/6/ Read the testimonies of the brave people who were able to come forth and expose this sick feck. A primer : During one interview, which occured just before I was scheduled to fly home to America, while we were alone, Sai Baba had me pull down my pants. He then "materialized" oil and pulled down my underwear and appied the oil on my lower abdomen below my navel and above my penis. He did not touch me sexually or ask me to do anything to him. He did embrace me for what seemed like a long time (perhaps 30 seconds or more) but nothing else. During that visit I was 26 or 27 years old. At another point in this interview when I was with three or four others in the smaller interview room, Sai Baba slapped me across the face quite hard when I was not looking. 205 00:28:09:06 00:28:15:24 But there are much more serious allegations against Sai Baba, accusations of sexual molestation. 206 00:28:16:02 00:28:21:13 The guru is known for daily selecting disciples to take to a so-called interview. 207 00:28:21:16 00:28:24:08 The interviews take place alone in a room with Sai Baba - 208 00:28:24:11 00:28:30:02 - and are regarded as something of the highest one can achieve. 209 00:28:30:05 00:28:35:00 The accusers say that Sai Baba has molested his disciples sexually during these interviews. 210 00:28:35:03 00:28:39:18 It involves young men and boys, including minors. 211 00:28:39:21 00:28:43:24 Sai Baba and his organisation have so far rejected all allegations. 212 00 28:44:02 00:28:49:06 They characterize the allegations as an evil campaign based on second-hand rumours. 213 00:28:49:09 00:28:55:07 Danish Radio has spoken to a number of ex-disciples who have been molested. During the main interview he granted me a private interview. During this private interview he sexually molested me. There was no room for misinterpretation on my part and Sai Baba wasn't trying to activate my kundalini or any of the hundreds of other rationalizations and denials that devotees and believers in Sai Baba come up with. Also, this wasn't a matter of an impure, egoistic, finite mind of a mere mortal misinterpreting a pure god-man whose actions are born of of an infinite mind so vast and complex that it is beyond the capability of the limited finite human mind to accurately judge or understand. His actions were for his own sexual gratification. (If he is activating my kundalini why would he try to get me to put his erect penis in my mouth) Another point here:If not a blade of grass moves without his will why couldn't he simply activate the kundalini of us young men (and in some cases boys) by his mere sankalpa or will or thought-power. And as for the argument that he does it to give the devotees the pleasure of human interaction with the divine, this simply doesn't hold water. In 1989 when I was 15 years old I went to India for three weeks. And on that trip I had four interviews. And in the third interview he actually asked me to untie my pants. And he forcibly pulled my pants down and with his bare hand grabbed my groin and rubbed some oil on the side of my scrotum. And I went again on the following year, and on that trip when I was 16 years old, SB called me again for a private interview. At that point I was even actually more uncomfortable because it seemed like this had already taken place, there is no reason why it needed to take place again. ...he waved his hand and turned it over and showed me some oil. And he started to rub it on my testicles and started kissing me. And as he was kissing me, he started kissing me deeply, you know. And I started tensing up and, you know, not understanding what was happening. But it seemed to me as if SB was trying to make my penis erect. "One time he had his robe almost completely off and he tried to have **** sex with me, because he came from behind me and started climbing up on top of me, you know, and being that I'm so much taller than him, in order to keep prevent it from happening, I just stood straight up and didn't allow him to do anything, you know, and I kind of kept pushing him away and keep him there until ??... I know, I want to talk to you, I want to be with you and I love you. He said, "You don't love me? You don't love me?" And I would say, "No, I love you, but I just don't want to have sexual relations with you." ... But every time we would go back into the personal room, his wants got to be very intimate. And he was constantly having me take out my penis and he would hold it, sometimes put it in his mouth and look at me, and then ask me to do the same thing or push my head down and lift his robe up. And I was gagging and almost about to vomit. And, you know, that was probably the most mentally break down type of thing I've ever done in my life, because if I didn't feel like at that time, like my life or my family's happiness or … was depending on it, I wouldn't have done it. But my mentality at that time … I felt like it was a life or almost death situation. You know, this was God in human form, but that was my mental program - this is God in human form. How could I deny him what he was trying to make me do? There must be some deeper reason or deeper meaning that what I see." What really helped me was when I had some conversations with some other people who had had similar experiences. Because I felt, that if they had had experiences as intense, or close to as intense as mine, I could talk to them about it more openly than I could talk to my dad. So we had talked about it, and all the people that I had talked about it were equally confused about it as I was. However, also equally brainwashed and allowing it to continue to take place. So I would say that finally I decided that I was not going to put myself into that position again, because life without SB was going to be a better life."
Stuge Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 why are we having three threads on this baba.I guess two are enough .
EnterTheVoid Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 :orderorder: How dare you question the great man? Don't you know he built hospitals, schools and pulled magic necklaces out his ****?
yoda Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 ANYONE can accuse ANYONE of ANYTHING. Until it is proven in a court of law it is meaningless. May be Hari Sampath help you file cases against the dead man. :winky:
EnterTheVoid Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 ANYONE can accuse ANYONE of ANYTHING. Until it is proven in a court of law it is meaningless. May be Hari Sampath help you file cases against the dead man. :winky: Are you his personal cheerleader or something :hysterical: The guy might as well commit murder and some nincompoop will come out and sweep it under the carpet.
yoda Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 For those who don't know Hari Sampath, is an ex-ICF poster who did go all the way to the Indian Supreme Court to file cases against Sathya Sai and was asked to GTFO. :hehe: So, law of the land has spoken. End of story. If there was evidence of wrong doing, you need to report it if you have any credibility. If you lack credibility ofc you can go about accusing someone hoping something sticks, which in this case did not.
EnterTheVoid Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 Abe, got to try harder than bringing up Hari Spamhat. No self respecting judge is going to take that tool seriously :hahaha:
yoda Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 Abe' date=' got to try harder than bringing up Hari Spamhat. No self respecting judge is going to take that tool seriously :hahaha:[/quote'] But he is on YOUR side. :hahaha:
EnterTheVoid Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 But he is on YOUR side. :hahaha: Also, Øjvind Kyrø claimed that Hari Sampath “represented the aggrieved partiesâ€. First of all, Hari Sampath is not a lawyer nor does he possess any credentials as one. Hari Sampath was allegedly a software engineer. It is also amusing to note that Hari Sampath “represented the aggrieved parties†by writing an extremely verbose letter from Chicago, USA to an unnamed “Director†at the Central Bureau of Investigations in New Delhi. Hari Sampath did not take the alleged affidavits to a court of law in India. He mailed them to the CBI and actually expected them to initiate proceedings with the alleged witnesses being half way around the world. As if this is not embarrassing enough, Hari Sampath asked the unnamed CBI Director to send him an “official acknowledgement†that he/she received his complaint. Hari Sampath has never provided anyone with any proof that he received an “official acknowledgement†from the CBI in New Delhi. Does this sound like “representing the aggrieved parties†to you? Click Here to view Hari Sampath’s alleged letter to the CBI in India. Click Here to view Hari Sampath’s claim (again) that he gave Ojvind Kyro 20 affidavits. Ojvind Kyro said he only has 10 affidavits. This means that half of the alleged legal documents disappeared, were lost, never existed or perhaps were proven to be falsified. http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/Ex-Baba.com/open-challenge.html -------- They probably chucked his email in the trash as soon they read the first few lines :hysterical:
yoda Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 I didn't know that his highness Hari Sampath's stuff was thrown out in CBI's trash can itself. :hehe: BTW there is another guy called Premananda who also filed cases against Sathya Sai, although his focus was on Gold I believe. :giggle:
ravishingravi Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 hWomaejpSkg&feature=related Very very disturbing documentary this is. Again it is one side of the story and it can be propoganda and I don't know enough to be sure.
The Outsider Posted April 26, 2011 Author Posted April 26, 2011 It takes immense courage for someone to come out and publicly state that he was sexually molested as a child. These people have nothing to gain by making false allegations and lots to lose.
Karan114 Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 hWomaejpSkg&feature=related Very very disturbing documentary this is. Again it is one side of the story and it can be propoganda and I don't know enough to be sure. I've just watched this whole documentary. Harrowing stuff. What a ****ing monster this baba was.
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