akshayxyz Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 Obligatory :facepalm: for a thread soon to be destroyed by Nirvanam. "Given the vastness of space" I can use that line to justify any damn thing I fricking want. Given the vastness of space, I am betting on another ICF in another universe where a higher form of Nirvanam pwns threads with even more regularity. arey maaf karde bhai usko.. On "vastness of space" - people think this sort of hints that evolution_of_life can not be by chance (since it is so improbable).. Where as, the very same thing - "vastness of space w/o life" - is the proof we happen to exist by chance...and dooor dooor tak koi nahi.... because probability of "chain of random events leading to a self-aware, intelligent entity is" so low - that there can't be life in every other corner. Otherwise, this conscious thing which happened to drive evolution, is too slow and inefficient to have taken billions of years to produce *****y race like ours and put us here with no one other life/planet to talk too.. ....but of course, everything is Moh-Maya- and "in realest reality" our universe can actually be just few seconds old, confined within sperm cell of Brahma.
akshayxyz Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 On the super-conscious/world-organism/Gaia thing - I believe it is in the process of evolution - and most likely not yet self-aware.
Vijay.Sharma Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 Obligatory :facepalm: for a thread soon to be destroyed by Nirvanam. "Given the vastness of space" I can use that line to justify any damn thing I fricking want. Given the vastness of space, I am betting on another ICF in another universe where a higher form of Nirvanam pwns threads with even more regularity.Arre mamu yeh ek universe mein "Nirvanam pwns threads" kaafi nahi hua kya? Ab tu ne bol diya thread destroy hone wala hai toh fir karna hee padega na mujhe...
Prakat Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 The evolution of Nirvanam from a touchy jerk who is sensitive of how he is mis/understood/perceived to someone with a sense of humour about himself. :nice:
Vijay.Sharma Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 may be you misread me - I did not mean that the super-conciousness being must provide evidence of its existence. I meant, if it is possible then that super-conscious entity is in better position to initiate the communication. Unless, we consciously work towards developing a superconcious being (a sum total of all of us) - end ensure the communication channel/protocol stays - and this later kind of evolution / super-entity is what I am more inclined to believe can exist, in future... Theoretically it seems possible as there have been news for quite some time that we will be able to scan and store the brain map, and we are not very far off, we might as well see in our live times....and I trust this more than any other theory - since I believe at individual level - consciousness is purely function of physical brain - which keeps evolving as we interact with our environment.I believe that communication is happening continuously. Like I mentioned in the previous posts, as a collective maybe we haven't yet evolved our consciousness to fathom or communicate with a superior specie but maybe some individual entities can communicate with the more evolved specie, for ex, Gaia could be one of those organisms. Some individuals among the 7 billion humans maybe able to "communicate" with Gaia in a way that the rest of think is impossible? Consciousness is a function of brain theory is something that I am very skeptical about. In other words, 'mind = what the brain does' theory dunn seem right. And I believe that each one of us instinctively knows that consciousness is not just a material thing like the brain. I believe that we physically perceive the manifestation of consciousness through many functions of the brain and the neural network. But consciousness as an entity that is equal to the physical body just doesn't seem right. The only reason we can tell ourselves apart from the other person is because of consciousness and that is not the brain. Just consider this thought experiment - you are standing next to someone...there is some space (air) between the two of you. The two of you are separate individuals right? Now, you zoom in to the atomic scale - where do "you" begin, where does the other guy begin, where does air begin and end? If my consciousness defines me as separate from you and the space between us then it must be able to do it at this atomic scale too. At the atomic scale I dunno how an instrument like a brain suddenly gains intelligence, builds itself, simultaneously builds other organs, and forms a certain shape and identifies itself as this "whole". I think consciousness transcends matter. What we observe is the manifestation of its effects thru "instruments" (organs like brain, spine, systems like nervous system) and its functioning
Vijay.Sharma Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 The evolution of Nirvanam from a touchy jerk who is sensitive of how he is mis/understood/perceived to someone with a sense of humour about himself. :nice::--D He has been following me forever and I am sick of ignoring it...lemme just help and add to his fun and make his day....kuch toh punya karunga PK ko fodder de ke, hai na? :icflove:
Prakat Posted January 2, 2012 Posted January 2, 2012 :--D He has been following me forever and I am sick of ignoring it...lemme just help and add to his fun and make his day....kuch toh punya karunga PK ko fodder de ke, hai na? :icflove: It's all good! :regular_smile:
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