gaurav92 Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 Not the greatest of all times, but certainly one of the greats of Indian Cricket :nice:
Javier Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 He averages 35 in Bangladesh. So Bangladesh pitches are great pitches? What a stupid logic. He has thrashed every bowler on every pitch. He just played rash shots in some of the innings and got out. But that is how Viru plays. He has got a 100 in every single country except Bangladesh and NZ. Even in NZ in one dayers he got 2 centuries where batsmen hardly could score a 50. There is no need to bring in statistics against weak countries like Zimbabwe and Bangladesh , Tendulkar too averages around 35 in Zimbabwe . The point here is Sehwag by no means is a complete batsman with whopping averages of 20 and 25 in NZ and SA . He was scoring tons of runs against saffie bowlers in India but couldnt even manage to score with same pace against there attack in away conditions. Why is it that he manages to score heavily against SA in home conditions with averages per series as 87 , 74 and 95 respectively while in SA he averages just 14 and 24 in last two series ?
ganeshran Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 LOL at anyone calling Sehwag a FTB. In fact he has played on difficult pitches far better than the easier ones. Sehwag throws away his own wicket at times, but that is how he plays and it would be stupid to try and mould him into a consolidator.
Sidhoni Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 Last time we won without him and we shall win this time as well; with or without Viru But He is an impact player, and we need him, who'll open the innings in his absence? Murali Vijay? :headshake:
Javier Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 Sehwag is the one who can always set up a match in India's favor' date=' even if everyone counts India out of the game. Laxman doesn't have that ability. Actually Laxman also has the ability, but he cannot do it as often as Sehwag.[/quote'] True . Sehwag and Gambhir both always set up the match in India's favour just like they did on the recent tour of SA . Sehwag toh is a world class batsman in Odis as well who contributed with a huge 175 against Mighty Bangaldesh in opening Match of the world cup but a failure in every single match after that .
ganeshran Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 True . Sehwag and Gambhir both always set up the match in India's favour just like they did on the recent tour of SA . Sehwag toh is a world class batsman in Odis as well who contributed with a huge 175 against Mighty Bangaldesh in opening Match of the world cup but a failure in every single match after that . :blink: He was the 7th highest scorer in the World cup. His score against Pakistan was critical in us winning the match
Javier Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 :blink: He was the 7th highest scorer in the World cup. His score against Pakistan was critical in us winning the match Yes but that was mainly on the back of his mammoth 175 against Bangladesh otherwise he had a very ordinary tournament . He showed zero responsibility in the three knock out matches ( Quarter/Semis/Finals) and went on to play his natural game which fortunately didnt cost the team . Too much fuss has been made about his 38 runs against Pakistan where he was only slogging "Afridi type" untill his luck ran out , it wasnt that Pakistan were on the back foot after his innings since Wahab Riaz did bring back Pakistan into the match which means it wasnt cakewalk for us after Sehwag left . Bowlers won the match for us on that day , take away the contribution of likes of Munaf , Bhajji , Zaheer and Yuvi that day and you will realize that fluke scores of 30, 40 dont really help .
saneindian Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 Yes but that was mainly on the back of his mammoth 175 against Bangladesh otherwise he had a very ordinary tournament . He showed zero responsibility in the three knock out matches ( Quarter/Semis/Finals) and went on to play his natural game which fortunately didnt cost the team . Too much fuss has been made about his 38 runs against Pakistan where he was only slogging "Afridi type" untill his luck ran out ' date= it wasnt that Pakistan were on the back foot after his innings since Wahab Riaz did bring back Pakistan into the match which means it wasnt cakewalk for us after Sehwag left . Bowlers won the match for us on that day , take away the contribution of likes of Munaf , Bhajji , Zaheer and Yuvi that day and you will realize that fluke scores of 30, 40 dont really help . :hysterical::hysterical: Did you even watch the match or in your hate for Sehwag, you have been blinded completely? 0.3 Umar Gul to Sehwag, FOUR, driven through covers for four. The ball was a touch too full outside off, Sehwag says so still and brings his bat down swiftly to crash the ball through the in field 2.1 Umar Gul to Sehwag, FOUR, a half-volley on leg stump dismissed by Sehwag with a crisp flick off his pads. He hit that in the air but there was no fielder anywhere near midwicket 2.2 Umar Gul to Sehwag, FOUR, too straight again, not as full, but Sehwag stays in his crease and whips the ball off his pads through midwicket. Still no fielder there. 2.4 Umar Gul to Sehwag, FOUR, too straight again and Sehwag flicks, this time past the fielder at square leg and the ball races across his fast outfield towards the boundary before the fielder at long leg can get to it 2.5 Umar Gul to Sehwag, FOUR, that's the fourth of the over. A slower ball outside off stump. The length was short and there was width. Sehwag waited for it and cut the ball hard through point 2.6 Umar Gul to Sehwag, (no ball) FOUR, the fifth! And it's a front-foot no-ball as well. Too full outside off and Sehwag drills the ball off the front foot through extra cover. Gul is rattled. Sehwag on the charge ... 3.3 Abdul Razzaq to Sehwag, FOUR, length ball which is pretty straight and Sehwag has hit it straight. He planted his front foot forward and hit the ball through the line over the bowler's head. 4.4 Umar Gul to Sehwag, FOUR, that's a rubbish half-volley on middle and leg I'm afraid. Sehwag whips it through midwicket with a fearful lash of his wrists 4.6 Umar Gul to Sehwag, FOUR, that's another bouncer, perhaps a touch slower? It was wider outside off though and Sehwag reached for it and lashed it over point ... Pakistan on a leather hunt All of these proper cricket shots without any slogging. Afridi type knock untill his luck ran out? :blink::blink:
ganeshran Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 Yes but that was mainly on the back of his mammoth 175 against Bangladesh otherwise he had a very ordinary tournament . He showed zero responsibility in the three knock out matches ( Quarter/Semis/Finals) and went on to play his natural game which fortunately didnt cost the team . Too much fuss has been made about his 38 runs against Pakistan where he was only slogging "Afridi type" untill his luck ran out ' date=' it wasnt that Pakistan were on the back foot after his innings since Wahab Riaz did bring back Pakistan into the match which means it wasnt cakewalk for us after Sehwag left . Bowlers won the match for us on that day , take away the contribution of likes of Munaf , Bhajji , Zaheer and Yuvi that day and you will realize that fluke scores of 30, 40 dont really help .[/quote'] Sehwag is a slogger :blink: ? He doesn't have technical perfection - agreed, or solid footwork. But nothing can be further from the truth than calling Sehwag a slogger. He plays proper cricketing shots even if he doesnt always get in the perfect position to play them. Sloggers dont have the kind of test record that Sehwag does, He is a naturally aggressive player.
CSK Fan Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 LOL at anyone calling Sehwag a FTB. In fact he has played on difficult pitches far better than the easier ones. Sehwag throws away his own wicket at times, but that is how he plays and it would be stupid to try and mould him into a consolidator. And that is why, with all the talent in the world, Sehwag cannot be called the best batsman, not yet
ganeshran Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 And that is why' date=' with all the talent in the world, Sehwag cannot be called the best batsman, not yet[/quote'] He cant be called the best batsman of the decade, but by no means is he a slogger.
Vijay.Sharma Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 But He is an impact player' date=' and we need him, who'll open the innings in his absence? Murali Vijay? :headshake:[/quote']He has always been an impact player...but we didn't need him in 2007, did we? My point is that Viru, if he is available, will definitely be an advantage. But he is not a "must have". The "must haves" for us are Buddha, Lax, Gauti, and (hopefully) Rahul. I hope Rahul rediscovers himself like how Dada did in the 2007 series.
saneindian Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 He has always been an impact player...but we didn't need him in 2007, did we? My point is that Viru, if he is available, will definitely be an advantage. But he is not a "must have". The "must haves" for us are Buddha, Lax, Gauti, and (hopefully) Rahul. I hope Rahul rediscovers himself like how Dada did in the 2007 series. Sehwag's true value is on the flatter decks or on slow sluggish tracks where through his aggressive innings he helps us score at a much faster rate giving our bowlers the much needed additional time to bowl the opposition out twice. Outside the subcontinent, where he helps the team is by scoring those quick 30s and 40s which gives us a great start and blunts the new ball threat. Go back to the 2008 Aus tour, he didn't play the first two tests, we hardly scored runs in the first 15-20 overs. Once he came back from the 3rd test onwards, we always had the upper hand as Lee's prowess with the new ball was nearly blunted.
Sachin=GOD Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 Yes but that was mainly on the back of his mammoth 175 against Bangladesh otherwise he had a very ordinary tournament . He showed zero responsibility in the three knock out matches ( Quarter/Semis/Finals) and went on to play his natural game which fortunately didnt cost the team . Too much fuss has been made about his 38 runs against Pakistan where he was only slogging "Afridi type" untill his luck ran out ' date= it wasnt that Pakistan were on the back foot after his innings since Wahab Riaz did bring back Pakistan into the match which means it wasnt cakewalk for us after Sehwag left . Bowlers won the match for us on that day , take away the contribution of likes of Munaf , Bhajji , Zaheer and Yuvi that day and you will realize that fluke scores of 30, 40 dont really help . DO NOT INSULT VIRENDER SEHWAG.
saneindian Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 This Javier is another Paki Troll. Why will a Pakistani have a pic of Veer Savarkar as his profile pic?
Vijay.Sharma Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 Sehwag's true value is on the flatter decks or on slow sluggish tracks where through his aggressive innings he helps us score at a much faster rate giving our bowlers the much needed additional time to bowl the opposition out twice. Outside the subcontinent, where he helps the team is by scoring those quick 30s and 40s which gives us a great start and blunts the new ball threat. Go back to the 2008 Aus tour, he didn't play the first two tests, we hardly scored runs in the first 15-20 overs. Once he came back from the 3rd test onwards, we always had the upper hand as Lee's prowess with the new ball was nearly blunted.No disagreement there! But, SA has still been a blot in his career...except for his debut cent SA has been unkind to him. I hope he gets another chance to make a cent and a couple of 50s there soon enough
Vijay.Sharma Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 Why will a Pakistani have a pic of Veer Savarkar as his profile pic?This very fact confirms his troll status?
Guest Gunner Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 This Javier is another Paki Troll. This very fact confirms his troll status? Is everyone who disagrees with you a Paki troll? He may every well be wrong in his opinion but it is HIS opinion and he is entitled to it.
coffee_rules Posted June 8, 2011 Posted June 8, 2011 The chase in Chennal against Eng comes to my mind. Without Sehwag, I can't imaginge India winning. Ofcourse Tendulkar/Yuvraj were vital, but in a team game without a start like that, it is tough to finish a chase.
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