Lord Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 ^ Laxman was out there too.as the video is titled:careless
Crookbond Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 I have taken offense to Flower and Strauss in the Indian dressing room to reverse the appeal. Flower always talks about playing the game hard and fair. He expected Pietersen to "bite the bullet" and play through hernia. Probably, it was time for Flower to take it up on his chin and have a word with Bell and just move on.
Crookbond Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 ^ Laxman was out there too.as the video is titled:careless So was Ian Bell. We didn't whine and approach the opposing dressing room. We took it the hard way and pledged to be more careful in the future.
ravsdh Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 look, they thought we were weak gandhi-jis who would bow down to them, and we did. or rather MSD did. dada can say he would have retracted the appeal now he is retired, but he is talking BS. they would have sledged him so hard in his 3 innings to date in this series that he would have told them to go **** themselves
Crookbond Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 look' date= they thought we were weak gandhi-jis who would bow down to them, and we did. or rather MSD did. dada can say he would have retracted the appeal now he is retired, but he is talking BS. they would have sledged him so hard in his 3 innings to date in this series that he would have told them to go **** themselves It was still the right thing to do. We should request Flower and Strauss to reconsider Pietersen's decision in the first Test match! Anyways, it's time to move on.
Stan AF Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 Bell admits he was Naive to walk off and assume that the ball had gone off for 4 [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57PZWdaBh5M]Interview with ian bell about the controversial run out - YouTube[/ame] Interview with ian bell about the controversial run out
ravsdh Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 thats what im saying. you DONT get to world number 1 without being ruthless. strauss showed this when he refused graeme smith a runner collingwood showed this when he wouldnt recall grant elliott they both would do whatever it takes to beat a side dhoni thinks we can rely on our natural talent to win, and not have the right hardnosed attitude. not any more. england are on the way up.
Crookbond Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 thats what im saying. you DONT get to world number 1 without being ruthless. strauss showed this when he refused graeme smith a runner collingwood showed this when he wouldnt recall grant elliott they both would do whatever it takes to beat a side dhoni thinks we can rely on our natural talent to win, and not have the right hardnosed attitude. not any more. england are on the way up. Strauss also recalled Angelo Matthews in the Champions Trophy 2009. Ruthless and being dispirited are two different things. Collingwood acknowledged his mistake in the post-match conference and Vettori forgave him. It was done and dusted. I believe the game should be played in such a way that you can have a beer with the opposition EOD. MSD did the right thing. Flower, Strauss & Bell didn't.
ravsdh Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 strauss recalled matthews he was given a rollocking by flower after and then denied smith a runner i think that speaks volumes about andy flower
Stan AF Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 :hysterical: almost slapped my girlfriend for this :wall:
BERGKAMP Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 Gower - What would Allan Border have said, had Flower and Strauss gone to his Aus dressing room. Warne - Two words, and the second word would have been off! :giggle:
Stan AF Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 Can somebody post the video of daniel vettori asking collingwood to bat on??
Sid Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 Gower - What would Allan Border have said, had Flower and Strauss gone to his Aus dressing room. Warne - Two words, and the second word would have been off! :giggle: :cantstop:
SachDan Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 Gower - What would Allan Border have said, had Flower and Strauss gone to his Aus dressing room. Warne - Two words, and the second word would have been off! :giggle: :hysterical::hysterical: Gotta love Aussies in situations like these...spirit? what spirit, play by rules of the book at the end of the day it's result what matters, rest is unimportant!
Karan114 Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 Gower - What would Allan Border have said, had Flower and Strauss gone to his Aus dressing room. Warne - Two words, and the second word would have been off! :giggle: :giggle:
21cent Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 Bad decision to call him back. But can not blame that decision for the ass whooping india is getting now.:hysterical:
Crookbond Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 :hysterical::hysterical: Gotta love Aussies in situations like these...spirit? what spirit, play by rules of the book at the end of the day it's result what matters, rest is unimportant! We all know where we are heading now. Underarm ball, Sydney Test match all were within the rules of the book. We shouldn't have created a furore then. We can't have rules for others and exceptions for ourselves.
VRV Singh Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 Have only just seen this, but followed it during the day on BBC live text. They were going on about Eng-Ind relations being ruined forever and a series destroying moment or some such bakwaas.. Winning at all costs is never a healthy attitude in sport. However I fail to see what right Strauss and Flower have to go and impose themselves in the Ind camp, when they should be chiding their batsman for being a dozy git. And they resent the power of the BCCI? Incident is nothing to do with the spirit of cricket or whatever the naysayers come up with. India should never have felt obliged to overturn the decision. Is MS Dhoni going to go to the England dressing room and ask for a reprieve the next time he has a dozy float at one outside off stump? Any indignation the England camp had should've been cast aside for the facts. Don't really give a crap if that means soured relations.
darkknight Posted July 31, 2011 Posted July 31, 2011 Gower - What would Allan Border have said, had Flower and Strauss gone to his Aus dressing room. Warne - Two words, and the second word would have been off! :giggle: He could say that, because he knows that he has a team which perform on the ground.
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