Broad vs Morkel/English vs SA bowling attack

[nsareen]

Allrounder my foot' date=' playing against warne,mcgrath,lee,gillespie these so called allrounders would hardly score a run, india tail with bhajji, ishant,zak have won us more matches than english tail , we are talking about bowling attacks by the way and against quality spin or pace they will get out as swann is a slogger and anderson is blocker, and broad and bresnan can be allrounders but still long way to go both are just starting .[/quote'] MARK YOUR WORDS, you would not be able to take these back. Compare these words from 2-3 yrs from now, you would be ashamed of yourself of saying such a thing.

[CG]

Dude time's changed. The context changed. The problem is you want to stick to your petty ideas, i keep reminding you that , the thread you are writing into, is a comparison of SA vs English Attack, has nothing to do with Australia. You hear things you do not want to hear from me because you are forcing me to bring your attention to what are we debating on since the past 6-7 hrs. OKAY!!! I hope you get the Jist this time. If you want to overwhelm yourself with Australia's greatness, i can join you in another thead which talks specifically about it. Okay, I can probably write and provide more facts and figures about their greatness, which you would not have seen or heard. So let's cut the debate here.

I am just saying , with out beating anybody except aus at home ,how can they be best bowling side when sa have done well over the world except lanka.let them do well in away series where real test is then I will call them best attack,they have potential but they have yet to deliver.I have seen many english attacked hailed as best in business who just disintegrate away from home particularly in sub continent.friend I rest. My case,I will reply after pak series

[rkt.india]

Sorry I will not reply to a kid like u anymore' date='you are good with cricinfo stats go check how many test aus lost with mcgrath ,warne playing in aus, beating aus in aus with those two playing was impossible only westindies did it in 90,s .and 2005 ashes series every game went to wire .I cannot believe you are asking such questions have u not watches australian domination of 90,s and 2000,s[/quote'] if mcgrath had played all tests in 2005, they would not even have lost that.

[nsareen]

I am just saying ' date=' with out beating anybody except aus at home ,how can they be best bowling side when sa have done well over the world except lanka.let them do well in away series where real test is then I will call them best attack,they have potential but they have yet to deliver.I have seen many english attacked hailed as best in business who just disintegrate away from home particularly in sub continent.friend I rest. My case,I will reply after pak series[/quote'] Good so we are getting somewhere, now. As much as i do not want them to succeed in India, but i fear they have what it takes to take on india in India. They will not be Ill-Prepared like India is this time in England. Maybe your worst nightmare may come true. But if india brings on their new talent, against whom England would not have made PLANS,STRATEGIES, India will Teach them a Sub Continent Lesson, same as they are teaching us English Condition Lessions.

[nsareen]

if mcgrath had played all tests in 2005' date=' they would not even have lost that.[/quote'] There is no place for "IF" in Histories. Would you say, If zaheer would have played all these matches, India would not have suffered like the way they did. You cannot, because that would not change the outcome of the series. So No Ifs and No Buts.

[thevortex]

Some interesting thoughts again. About the younger Morkel, he is fast without doubt. But Broad is far more complete as a bowler - can swing the ball both ways as well as hit the pitch. And he is no slouch with speed as he can hit the 90 mph mark. The grounds for a very successful career is there in both cases. As a player though, I think Broad picks himself in any team given his batting abilities. And about the bowling attack, I do not think there is any comparison of England with other teams. Consider that they replaced their original match winner Tremlett (in this series) with Bresnan - who, in turn, won the game for his side in the next Test. And consider this - they have Graham Onions and Steven Finn waiting in the wings to replace the main bowlers in case of injury. Both of them are capable of touching the 90 mph mark. And after them you have options such as Ajmal Shahzad and Sajid Mahmood. Now which other team in world cricket has that kind of depth when it comes to bowling?!

[Sooda]

Vortex :hello: havent seen you around in a while. Good to see you back posting.

[thevortex]

Hello to you too Sooda :) Good to be back.

[J P K]

Michael Vaughan: "I think England have the best bowling attack in the world here. South Africa are second with Steyn, Morkel, Kallis and Tahir. But the third best would be Chris Tremlett, Steve Finn, Graham Onions and Monty Panesar." :mad:

[CG]

Michael Vaughan: "I think England have the best bowling attack in the world here. South Africa are second with Steyn, Morkel, Kallis and Tahir. But the third best would be Chris Tremlett, Steve Finn, Graham Onions and Monty Panesar." :mad:

Yeah the way amit mishra plays there bowlers we know how good there attack is.just wait 3 months mr vaughan how it will feel to eat your words

[Manny_Pacquiao]

south africa are much better. the only area where england are considerably stronger is at first change, altho tosstobe has a good test record. swann isn't a factor against good teams. he is just a minnow basher. averaging 50 in this series against an under performing indian side. steyn just pisses all over every single english bowler, IMO. not even close.