julianlev Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 Watching the England game today I found myself wondering, along with the commentators it seems, why Dhoni comes in as low as he does. He posseses a dominating style of play not unlike Sehwag, but all too often comes in too late to make an impact, or in todays case, was forced to curtail his natural aggresive style in the face of a faltering batting lineup. He is the kind of plyer who can unsettle a bowling lineup, as well as provide experience for a younger partner. I would think that a player like him would be more suited to coming in at third or fourth, whether to steady the ship, or continue to apply pressure. With Tendulkar, Dravid and VVS ending their careers soon, this will become more of an issue in a batting lineup that cries out for more experience at the top, and it seems to me that Dhoni is the man to provide that experience. Response? :hatsoff:
1983-2011 Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 batting order for 4th ODI: rahane parthiv dravid dhoni kohli raina jadeja
BERGKAMP Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 No he is fine where he is, he has enough on his plate already. If he were to come up the order regularly then he I think he would need to either give up the captaincy or the keeping. He is not superhuman and cannot take on too much burden. More than anything the likes of Raina and Kohli need to take on more responsibility and help out their skipper.
veer Posted September 9, 2011 Posted September 9, 2011 rahane parthiv dravid dhoni tiwary -- (if before 30 overs or else raina) raina jadeja
vamos_rafa Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 That's why I have never considered him to be an FTB. even in test matches he comes down late so the scoring options would be lesser but he does not look uncomforatable or ugly and unlike sehwag, he looks to apply himself. And mind you, he's one of the very few in the younger generation who can handle the short pitch stuff pretty well.
J P K Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 That's why I have never considered him to be an FTB. even in test matches he comes down late so the scoring options would be lesser but he does not look uncomforatable or ugly and unlike sehwag' date=' he looks to apply himself. And mind you, he's one of the very few in the younger generation who can handle the short pitch stuff pretty well.[/quote'] spot on the problem with dhoni in test matches his strength his running between the wicket in odi once he settles in he can play his shots but in test he is batting so low down the order he cannot make tailenders run hard like him also none of the seniors players are good runners except sachin even in test he needs to come up the order at no 5
nballa Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 why? the opponents are already getting off to good starts. but if you think about it its not a bad idea. i mean what's the difference between 20/3 and 20/4, might as well get it over with when the ball is new and minimize the damage wrt the number of balls faced instead of coming down the order and prodding and dancing like a headless chicken around the crease for a better part of eight or nine overs completely killing any hint of momentum that we might have built.
Number Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 they asked Dhoni about it. His reply kind of convinced me If I bat up the order, it puts more pressure on younger batsmen lower down the order. When I am at number five or six, I can maneuver with the lower half. You need somebody who can chat with the youngsters in the middle and bring in a sense of calmness. Having an experienced man down the order really helps.
TheYuvi02 Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 No, when the ball is moving he is a sitting duck unfortunately. Even he admitted by the time he came in the ball stopped moving like the way it did in the beginning
suraj Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 On this tour all this does not matter- even if RD, SRT, Sehwag are allowed to bat 10 times each we will still lose kya manhoos tour hai- kab khatam hoga saala
rkt.india Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 On this tour all this does not matter- even if RD, SRT, Sehwag are allowed to bat 10 times each we will still lose kya manhoos tour hai- kab khatam hoga saala cannot put it better than this.:((
vamos_rafa Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 No' date=' when the ball is moving he is a sitting duck unfortunately. Even he admitted by the time he came in the ball stopped moving like the way it did in the beginning[/quote'] I would not agree to it completely. He did not look like a sitting duck in any of the innings. The English have been bowling very well and even players like Laxman have struggled. He played decently in the 2 tours to south africa.
Sidhoni Posted September 10, 2011 Posted September 10, 2011 Yes, definitely, many ppl think the same But his reply yesterday convinced me, he should not be batting at 4.
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