rkt.india Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 If the likes of Bracewell and Bout an trouble Aussie batsmen this much Vinay and Mithun can trouble them too in these conditions. Its not like New zea land bowlers are express pace. Bracewell and Built both are faster and taller than Vinay and Mithun.
Old guy Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 Hope you are right...But after Aaron and P.Kumar' date=' I am keeping my fingers crossed regarding fitness. But our batsmen will have to come up with something much better than they did in England. On good batting tracks Aussies know they will get jacked..so they will definitely prepare tracks with lot of bounce. I wonder if the selectors missed a trick in not picking even Rahul Sharma in place of Mithun. I think Sharma may be tricky to play on tracks with good bounce.[/quote'] i agree but it would be too quick for him just one odi and into the most important test series w/o any experience and mithun is waste... no doubt but some balls vinay kumar bowls will get any one out trott is better defensively than any aussie batsman wont u agree? and he was still able to get him with good balls so in tests i dont mind vinay as 3rd seamer
Ponka Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 india would outscore australia on a green top any day. if they are smart, they will do well to remember perth 08 Oh you fool, Perth is not the same fastest wicket in Australia which it used to be in 80's and 90's. It has gone down in pace since later half of 2000. They've flatten it out a bit. It was the fastest pitch but not anymore. Current pitch where Australia and NZ are playing the game, if conditions are like that than India will have tough time. Don't need fast pitch but a little bit swing and seaming conditions are enough for Australian bowlers to exploit. They've 4 quickies and India has only 1.
vamos_rafa Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 Yes, it seems that the conditions are pretty heave in Oz this time around. May be the places where the matches are being played are generally overcast this time around. But we would have a tough time if the conditions and the pitches are what they are right now in the Oz-NZ series. They resemble more of the English conditions.
Needforspeed Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 Yes, it seems that the conditions are pretty heave in Oz this time around. May be the places where the matches are being played are generally overcast this time around. But we would have a tough time if the conditions and the pitches are what they are right now in the Oz-NZ series. They resemble more of the English conditions. If Zaheer is fit...then OK. Yadav can also swing a bit
vamos_rafa Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 If Zaheer is fit...then OK. Yadav can also swing a bit You never know of Zak. His body is so fragile that he may end up getting an injury even in his nails or hair. Yadav is new. Also, post the English tour, I would seriously wait and watch before jumping the gun :--D
Old guy Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 zaheer can swing,yadav can swing ishant isnt a swing bowler but he will like these conditions , ashwin is totally out of equation on these tracks may get some bounce and his batting would be a plus
Magneto Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 15 saal ke nanhe munno ko kuchch yaad nahi rehta :giggle: :haha:
NareshK Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 Dont give them ideas, OP. Our batting doesnt do well in seaming conditions. They are good in hard, bouncy conditions which are typical in Australia and only our batting can win us games. Bowling looks fragile if Zaheer gets injured which is a very likely possibility.
carnish Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 Dont give them ideas' date=' OP. Our batting doesnt do well in seaming conditions. They are good in hard, bouncy conditions which are typical in Australia and only our batting can win us games. Bowling looks fragile if Zaheer gets injured which is a very likely possibility.[/quote'] batting never wins games... you have to take 20 wickets... the only thing is that the batsmen can do is save a game if our bowlers fail miserably
carnish Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 I think Indian batting is more capable on any kind of tracks that they prepare... we have the better batting line-up and we have seen that both India and Australia struggle when the ball seams or swings so i guess if they prepare a green pitch and we have ZK, UY, IShu fit then its good for us... Aussies after the game at Newlands and Hobart won't even go near a green pitch for some time now
J P K Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 dhoni and his luck with the toss will play huge factor in this series i am sure we will batting on every green track they are going to make :wall:
Needforspeed Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 dhoni and his luck with the toss will play huge factor in this series i am sure we will batting on every green track they are going to make :wall: Yeah send Viru for the toss. He will win them all. Even Gambhir is OK. Dhon's record is consistently bad.
NareshK Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 batting never wins games... you have to take 20 wickets... the only thing is that the batsmen can do is save a game if our bowlers fail miserably I know that Einstein. What I mean is the batsmen have to put big scores on board so the bowlers could put pressure on the opposition and take wickets. If the batsmen dont score well, its hard to expect an inexperienced bowling attack like we have to bail us out.
carnish Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 I know that Einstein. What I mean is the batsmen have to put big scores on board so the bowlers could put pressure on the opposition and take wickets. If the batsmen dont score well' date=' its hard to expect an inexperienced bowling attack like we have to bail us out.[/quote'] What if we bowl first?? Where will the bowlers have the runs then to put pressure??
Old guy Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 i think they should prepare wickets like 1st test if they want to have advantage.. green tracks will suit us more cos our dravid alone is better than all the australian batsmen on these kind of tracks.. more over if zaheer,yadav,ishant are fit they are no less then siddle,pattinson ,starc /harris (if fit)
NareshK Posted December 11, 2011 Posted December 11, 2011 What if we bowl first?? Where will the bowlers have the runs then to put pressure?? If we win toss, we should bat first. If we bowl first, then hope the bowlers do a good enough job but with the likely possibility that we wont run through the opposition, the batsmen should bat exceptionally well in the 1st innings and get us a lead so we can put pressure on them in the second innings. That's how India has won most test matches overseas in the recent past. Our batting has been our biggest strength, not our seamers or spinners. Once Dravid, Sachin and VVS go, it will become very apparent.
Needforspeed Posted December 11, 2011 Posted December 11, 2011 If Zak is fit, any Australian pitch is OK. When he is around, the other bowlers too bowl well. The way he got vital breakthroughs during the World Cup was amazing.
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