Patiala Peg Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Terrific fighter, great servant to Indian cricket and a great great player. But he HAS to go now for the sake of India. He has definitely lost it to be point where his playing and India's interests are irreconcilable. Absolutely unreliable in the slips these days. Bowled 3 times through the gate in this series ( counting the Siddle no ball ). Age has caught up with him for the worse now. Dravid you champ, please do India a favor ! You are legend !
Manny_Pacquiao Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 i dont think he was EVER a great player to be honest. you wanna see dravid at his best? take a look at what he 'did' in australia in 1999, south africa home and away in 2000 and 2001, australia at home in 2004, south africa in 2006. i urge anyone who reads this post to look at the man's STATS on those tours. those are top quality bolwing attacks. see what your HERO did against those teams and against those bowlers and THEN TELL ME IF U THINK HE DESERVES TO BE CALLED A GREAT PLAYER. great players do well against great teams. he has never done that. good riddance to bad rubbish. **** off dravid, you 'CHAMP'. and dont let the door hit u on the way out, you piece of ****.
Patiala Peg Posted December 29, 2011 Author Posted December 29, 2011 The phase out has to start FAST ,now. It must start with Dravid. Laxman too must go in 2012. We cannot travel with 3, 38 year old+ guys for ever.
kirkutfan Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Terrific fighter, great servant to Indian cricket and a great great player. But he HAS to go now for the sake of India. He has definitely lost it to be point where his playing and India's interests are irreconcilable. Absolutely unreliable in the slips these days. Bowled 3 times through the gate in this series ( counting the Siddle no ball ). Age has caught up with him for the worse now. Dravid you champ, please do India a favor ! You are legend ! Nope. He still has cricket left in him. VVS needs to go first.
Trundler27 Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 The phase out has to start FAST ,now. It must start with Dravid. Laxman too must go in 2012. We cannot travel with 3, 38 year old+ guys for ever. Well we won't.... coz starting next year they will all be 39 year olds..... so exciting ain't it.
vamos_rafa Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Guys control. Series is not lost yet. Who knows the very same not so good RD might score a match winning 100 at Sydney.
surajmal Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 The new breed is worthless but the old aren't doing much either. India is fvcked either way.
Patiala Peg Posted December 29, 2011 Author Posted December 29, 2011 i dont think he was EVER a great player to be honest. you wanna see dravid at his best? take a look at what he 'did' in australia in 1999, south africa home and away in 2000 and 2001, australia at home in 2004, south africa in 2006. i urge anyone who reads this post to look at the man's STATS on those tours. those are top quality bolwing attacks. see what your HERO did against those teams and against those bowlers. great players do well against great teams. he has never done that. good riddance to bad rubbish. **** off dravid, you 'CHAMP'. and dont let the door hit u on the way out, you piece of ****. Manny, he has had his share of failures. But don't be too harsh on him by just counting his failures. He has single handedly won us tests in Adelaide, Rawalpindi, Headingley and saved many matches for us overseas. Played a sterling role in Kolkata against Australia. He has been by far our best batter in English conditions - even this time he scored 3 tons when the entire batting was falling like a pack of cards. He is not perfect and not the greatest but a great player none the less. He must go now though.
BeautifulGame Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 i dont think he was EVER a great player to be honest. you wanna see dravid at his best? take a look at what he 'did' in australia in 1999, south africa home and away in 2000 and 2001, australia at home in 2004, south africa in 2006. i urge anyone who reads this post to look at the man's STATS on those tours. those are top quality bolwing attacks. see what your HERO did against those teams and against those bowlers and THEN TELL ME IF U THINK HE DESERVES TO BE CALLED A GREAT PLAYER. great players do well against great teams. he has never done that. good riddance to bad rubbish. **** off dravid, you 'CHAMP'. and dont let the door hit u on the way out, you piece of ****. :hysterical:
master22 Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 First bad match(still scored 80 runs,second only to srt)for him after almost a year and people want him dropped!For gods sake he is the highest run getter in the world this year. No one should be dropped this is not the first time we are loosing a match in aus.When was the last time we won a boxing day test match huh...
Manny_Pacquiao Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Manny, he has had his share of failures. But don't be too harsh on him by just counting his failures. He has single handedly won us tests in Adelaide, Rawalpindi, Headingley and saved many matches for us overseas. Played a sterling role in Kolkata against Australia. He has been by far our best batter in English conditions - even this time he scored 3 tons when the entire batting was falling like a pack of cards. He is not perfect and not the greatest but a great player none the less. He must go now though. i disagree. u need to go look at those series i pointed out. playing england isnt the same as playing SA or the aussies. headingley wasn't just about him, it was tendulkar with 193, ganguly with 120 and kumble/harbajan. adelaide wasn't just him either, you had laxman making 148 and agarkar 6/41 bowling australia out for 197, an effort without which we would have never won. rawalpindi was a DEAD pitch and the real heroes were irfan pathan and balaji who bowled pakistan out for 220 in the first innings. take out their massive efforts and u have a DRAW. TO CLAIM THAT DRAVID 'SINGLEHANDEDLY' WON US THESE GAMES IS A BLATANT FALSEHOOD AT THE VERY LEAST AND PATHETIC HERO WORSHIPPING AT BEST.
BeautifulGame Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Lets wait for the end of the series.Then we have 2 years of series mostly in Sub continent.We should use this time to retire all three Big 3 and probably Sehwag too and blood youngsters.All the youngsters should have had enough experience and confidence in test cricket before we go for some testing tours in 2014. No point clinging with Sachin Dravid and Laxman after this series.Time to build the batting line up for future like we did it with the bowling attack.
master22 Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 i disagree. u need to go look at those series i pointed out. playing england isnt the same as playing SA or the aussies. headingley wasn't just about him, it was tendulkar with 193, ganguly with 120 and kumble/harbajan. adelaide wasn't just him either, you had laxman making 148 and agarkar 6/41 bowling australia out for 197, an effort without which we would have never won. rawalpindi was a DEAD pitch and the real heroes were irfan pathan and balaji who bowled pakistan out for 220 in the first innings. take out their massive efforts and u have a DRAW. TO CLAIM THAT DRAVID 'SINGLEHANDEDLY' WON US THESE GAMES IS A BLATANT FALSEHOOD AT THE VERY LEAST AND PATHETIC HERO WORSHIPPING AT BEST. lol that applys to every batsman,no team would win without taking 20 wkts:cantstop:
vamos_rafa Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 The scoring team guys in my office have also started suggesting that Sachin is not a true champion as he does not revel under pressure. I say lets make the big 3 to retire after this match itself. :strike:We will see the real deal players then.
Manny_Pacquiao Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 lol that applys to every batsman' date='no team would win without taking 20 wkts:cantstop:[/quote'] that is true. bowlers win test matches. have always said so myself.
CoverDrive Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 i disagree. u need to go look at those series i pointed out. playing england isnt the same as playing SA or the aussies. headingley wasn't just about him, it was tendulkar with 193, ganguly with 120 and kumble/harbajan. adelaide wasn't just him either, you had laxman making 148 and agarkar 6/41 bowling australia out for 197, an effort without which we would have never won. rawalpindi was a DEAD pitch and the real heroes were irfan pathan and balaji who bowled pakistan out for 220 in the first innings. take out their massive efforts and u have a DRAW. TO CLAIM THAT DRAVID 'SINGLEHANDEDLY' WON US THESE GAMES IS A BLATANT FALSEHOOD AT THE VERY LEAST AND PATHETIC HERO WORSHIPPING AT BEST. are you on speed
Deleted_User_1 Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 No he should not retire.....who are you going to replace him with. Do you see the technique of the youngsters???? Lax should be phased out first. He is looking completely out of sorts!!!
Manny_Pacquiao Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 are you on speed instead of posting stupid one liners, why don't tell me which part of my post u disagree with? i didnt write anything wrong. those are all facts. whether you like them or not.
Andrew Peter Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 i disagree. u need to go look at those series i pointed out. playing england isnt the same as playing SA or the aussies. headingley wasn't just about him, it was tendulkar with 193, ganguly with 120 and kumble/harbajan. adelaide wasn't just him either, you had laxman making 148 and agarkar 6/41 bowling australia out for 197, an effort without which we would have never won. rawalpindi was a DEAD pitch and the real heroes were irfan pathan and balaji who bowled pakistan out for 220 in the first innings. take out their massive efforts and u have a DRAW. TO CLAIM THAT DRAVID 'SINGLEHANDEDLY' WON US THESE GAMES IS A BLATANT FALSEHOOD AT THE VERY LEAST AND PATHETIC HERO WORSHIPPING AT BEST. :hatsoff::hatsoff::hatsoff: for exposing the myth . Noticed how the claims are made that Dravid won us even the headingly Test Single Handedly Tendulkars 193 are considered negligible automatically .
surajmal Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 IF zaheer can stay healthy, India should able to defend the home turf as the old guys are phased out. But this series should be a wake up call. You can't have the old guard dictating when and where they'll call it quits. Time is now.
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