Where are good quality emerging test batsmen in cricket

[Tiger80]

There has been lot of talk about absense of fast bowlers but now so many fast bowlers are emerging.On the other hand there are hardly any good test quality batsmen emerging in the world India -- still very much relying on tendulkar and other old horses Pakistan --may be Azhar ali is the one who could be considered as good emerging test batsman Sri lanka-- hardly any Sanga and Mahela still do the job West indies Darren Bravo -- good emerging test batsman Australia --- No good emerging player England -- the only team with very good test batsmen SA --no emerging test batsman NZ -- don't think anyone

[BERGKAMP]

test cricket will be dead within the next 10 years.

[ganeshran]

Nz has Dean Brownlie who has good potential

[Old guy]

even england only produced trott recently ...

[Karan114]

even england only produced trott recently ...

Well, England got Trott anyway, not sure about produced...:winky:

[BERGKAMP]

even south africa only produced trott recently ...

[Andrew Peter]

even england only produced trott recently ...

Thats called stealing not producing .:--D

[Laaloo]

test cricket will be dead within the next 10 years.

+++++

[Tiger80]

even england only produced trott recently ...

already 30 + not sure whether he will be called a great batsman in future.

[Old guy]

^ lmfao @ all i know that but still he plays for england.. if south africa takes back all its players from england i think they would be even better then 90's australia :hysterical:

[Cricket Tragic]

Thats called stealing not producing .:--D

:giggle:

[chainsmoker1985]

NZ has some good players like Kane Williamson and Dean Brownlie. They are not from a superstar team of India or Australia thats y they are popular as yet

[NareshK]

What is test quality though ? If you judge Kohli, Raina, Rahane etc. by the way they play in sub continent, they would be more than good enough but its not their fault they dont know how to play when the ball swings and seams around as you dont get these kind of conditions in India. The fact that these batsmen have scored tons of runs in FC and sub continent and yet fail in SA, Aus and England shows that BCCI is doing a pathetic job in grooming them. They are not providing them enough exposure to quality attacks and tough conditions to shape them into complete test batsmen.

[Cricket Tragic]

These guys have been to Australia before for the emerging series.

[NareshK]

These guys have been to Australia before for the emerging series.

Just one series is not enough. They have to play a whole season of county cricket or its equivalent in SA, Aus or Eng.

[Cricket Tragic]

The fact is that they've been there before and young players get decent exposure. Should they play more? Sure, but you've got the fecking circus league. How many tours of Australia, WI and SA did our senior players make before they toured for the first time? How did Sunny score runs against the fast bowlers after facing trundlers and spinners in FC cricket? He wrote in his book about how he practiced for the tours. If you're good, you will find a way to score runs.

[NareshK]

For every Sunny or Sachin, there are about a 1000 other guys who amassed tons of runs in FC and were all at sea in foreign conditions. Not everyone can just go there and start scoring runs. We'll end up with scenarios like in England where Raina or Kohli get a chance to play and they fail miserably and we end up losing. Its also not fair to players themselves because they hardly get a chance again in tests after being discarded. Playing in county cricket is a must for the top scorers in FC if they have to make the transition to playing in Aus, Eng or SA. The experience of getting to play in foreign countries in different conditions is invaluable and I dont know why anyone would deny it.

[Cricket Tragic]

They aren't going there for the first time though. They've been there before and young players today get exposure to different conditions much earlier than players of previous generations. Of course a season of county cricket would be great for them but it is not the reason for their failure. Yuvraj played for Yorks and looked like a club player and had the embarrassment of being dropped. If they are completely as sea, it is because they aren't good enough.

[NareshK]

They aren't going there for the first time though. They've been there before and young players today get exposure to different conditions much earlier than players of previous generations. Of course a season of county cricket would be great for them but it is not the reason for their failure. Yuvraj played for Yorks and looked like a club player and had the embarrassment of being dropped. If they are completely as sea, it is because they aren't good enough.

Tell me, how many English, Aussie batsmen have done consistently well in sub continent conditions ? Very few. But they are strangely considered good test match batsmen despite this whereas if Indian batsmen dont do well over there, they are not good enough. Hypocritical. Anyway, the reason why Engish or Aussie batsmen struggle so much over here is because they have never had too much experience playing quality spin or playing in sub continent conditions. Not necessarily because they are not "good enough". Same goes for Indian batsmen playing in seaming, bouncy conditions. The more they play in alien conditions the better they will get.

[Needforspeed]

Whether we like it or not, the era of typical 'Test' batsmen are over. Today's batsmen play so many limited overs cricket that they are finding it difficult to adapt to Test Cricket. Even those batsmen whose style is meant for the longer formats, are trying to become good T20 players. Its simply a matter of economics. Apart from England, there are hardly any batsmen below the age of 30 who can perform consistently in tests. India's big 3, Amla, Kallis, Ponting, Hussey, Chandrapaul etc are all batsmen who started their career before the profile of international cricket changed so much. At the same time you can see bowlers getting better and quicker with more varieties. In T20 & ODI, they have to bowl on flat tracks with batsmen going after them. I dont know how long Test criket will last, but I think in future most test teams are going to have good bowling attacks with average batting.