How confident are you that India will beat Eng/Aus at home?

[zaqw222222]

We may beat them, but I dont think we will be able to humiliate them as they have done to us

[Hell Raiser]

The way we are playing it doesn't instill much confidence. WI although lost 2-0 but still managed to take over 100 lead on two occasions, a better batting line up will make us pay for that. And Aus and Eng are certainly better than WI. It will be a close series though, not like the ones we are witnessing right now. Could go either way.

[deathmonger]

The way we are playing it doesn't instill much confidence. WI although lost 2-0 but still managed to take over 100 lead on two occasions' date=' a better batting line up will make us pay for that. And Aus and Eng are certainly better than WI. It will be a close series though, not like the ones we are witnessing right now. Could go either way.[/quote'] Taking leads, taking advantages don't count. We had a lead in Trent bridge, Ishant put us back in Lords, We had an advantage in Melbourne.

[wobblydoggy]

Aus - Piches in INDIA will their bowling ordinary attack so v can win. Eng - Obvious that ENG cant play spin in sub continent. In Home advantage INDIA s the supreme country , WC is an example

What you mean is they could water their pitches more, but choose no to so they can get a ridiculous home advantage. whilst Aus, Eng and SA produce test match wickets possible for either side to win on and not really favouring either side greatly.

[wobblydoggy]

The way we are playing it doesn't instill much confidence. WI although lost 2-0 but still managed to take over 100 lead on two occasions' date=' a better batting line up will make us pay for that. And Aus and Eng are certainly better than WI. It will be a close series though, not like the ones we are witnessing right now. Could go either way.[/quote'] +1 If you rebuild it will go our way:--D

[deathmonger]

What you mean is they could water their pitches more, but choose no to so they can get a ridiculous home advantage. whilst Aus, Eng and SA produce test match wickets possible for either side to win on and not really favouring either side greatly.

Even we do the same. Just get better spinners and play spin better.

[deathmonger]

+1 If you rebuild it will go our way:--D

no it won't. we have 60+ avging domestic batsmen and in these no seam, no swing conditions english swing bowlers will be as mediocre as indian domestic trundlers.

[wobblydoggy]

Even we do the same. Just get better spinners and play spin better.

You are missing the point. We could for instance choose to play you on some real green tops and prepare them like that to secure a real home advantage, but we dont. we believe in something called 'the spirit of fair play in cricket' and we as a nation along with the Aussi's have tried to imbue that into all the regions we took the game to. Unfortunately India and the BCCI now have all the influence and they are not worried about fair play, just about $$$$ and things being better for India

[wobblydoggy]

no it won't. we have 60+ avging domestic batsmen and in these no seam' date=' no swing conditions english swing bowlers will be as mediocre as indian domestic trundlers.[/quote'] There is a world of difference playing Test Cricket against the best in the world to playing club cricket, if you do not understand that you know nothing about the game

[deathmonger]

There is a world of difference playing Test Cricket against the best in the world to playing club cricket' date=' if you do not understand that you know nothing about the game[/quote'] but what if the best in the world is reduced to club cricket standards in specific conditions? Warne avgs 43.11 here Murali 45.45 These are the world's best two spinners ever. Still these figures are pretty bad. Opposition spinners can't take wkts because we play spin well. Opposition seamers can't take wkts because the pitchs aren't conductive.

[wobblydoggy]

but what if the best in the world is reduced to club cricket standards in specific conditions? Warne avgs 43.11 here Murali 45.45 These are the world's best two spinners ever. Still these figures are pretty bad. Opposition spinners can't take wkts because we play spin well. Opposition seamers can't take wkts because the pitchs aren't conductive.

See my post above about thae Spirit of cricket. Producing rank turners that last 5 days and where neither side have much chance of winning so you dont lose at home, does not imbue the cricket fan watching with much respect for India as a host nation. If we did the same and asked you to p-lay on uncovered green tops you would scream blue murder

[India-KXIP fan]

How England go against Pakistan would be a good indication as to whether they can play in the subcontinent. Correct me if im wrong but they ve only won 1 of their last 16 tests against India Sri lanka or Pakistan in the subcontinent.

[daryl1985]

You are missing the point. We could for instance choose to play you on some real green tops and prepare them like that to secure a real home advantage, but we dont. we believe in something called 'the spirit of fair play in cricket' and we as a nation along with the Aussi's have tried to imbue that into all the regions we took the game to. Unfortunately India and the BCCI now have all the influence and they are not worried about fair play, just about $$$$ and things being better for India

England prepared seamer friendly tracks last summer and used the Duke ball from the 2010 season (rather than last season's one) because it swung more and they felt India were vulnerable to swing. India produce tracks that benefit their strong batting (in home conditions) and assist spinners. What is the difference? You seem to be of the opinion that a track is only sporting if it has something in it for the quicks. India have struggled to produce quicks historically so it would be suicide for them to produce seamer friendly tracks at home. Also, not too many Ranji trophy tracks offer too much for the quicks, so it is not like India doctor tracks specifically for International matches.

[Needforspeed]

England prepared seamer friendly tracks last summer and used the Duke ball from the 2010 season (rather than last season's one) because it swung more and they felt India were vulnerable to swing. India produce tracks that benefit their strong batting (in home conditions) and assist spinners. What is the difference? You seem to be of the opinion that a track is only sporting if it has something in it for the quicks. India have struggled to produce quicks historically so it would be suicide for them to produce seamer friendly tracks at home. Also, not too many Ranji trophy tracks offer too much for the quicks, so it is not like India doctor tracks specifically for International matches.

+1

[wobblydoggy]

England prepared seamer friendly tracks last summer and used the Duke ball from the 2010 season (rather than last season's one) because it swung more and they felt India were vulnerable to swing. India produce tracks that benefit their strong batting (in home conditions) and assist spinners. What is the difference? You seem to be of the opinion that a track is only sporting if it has something in it for the quicks. India have struggled to produce quicks historically so it would be suicide for them to produce seamer friendly tracks at home. Also, not too many Ranji trophy tracks offer too much for the quicks, so it is not like India doctor tracks specifically for International matches.

Seamer friendly? Every bloody pitch in England is 'seamer friendly' like every pitch in India is spin friendly But there is the rub, we could make ours rank uncovered green tops which would equal the % of tampering that you do to produce rank turners, but we dont. We produce a fair wicket that is not 'doctored' to our benefit, just reflective of our country. You take a pitch that is reflective and then make it as bad as possible

[PUNTERPONTING]

only your age ppl blve. attndnce is down everywhere. young generation don't even care. odis are filled. in 20-30 yrs your gen will be dead.

Mate you're a peice of work arnt you? You can't handle the fact that your team is the dregs at the moment. Bottom line, Test cricket is KING. Nobody gives a **** about ODI's or T20. Rubbish cricket.

[wobblydoggy]

Mate you're a peice of work arnt you? You can't handle the fact that your team is the dregs at the moment. Bottom line, Test cricket is KING. Nobody gives a **** about ODI's or T20. Rubbish cricket.

+1 But dont go thinking that just because you are beating this shower that you have a chance against England :--D

[PUNTERPONTING]

+1 But dont go thinking that just because you are beating this shower that you have a chance against England :--D

Wouldn't dream of it mate, there has to be one point in time when you poms are actually proud of your team. :haha: I'm hauling my ass over to England for the ashes next series, should be fun with alot of banter.

[BERGKAMP]

This current Indian team is finished. I'm surprised we beat Windies. They really should have won at least a test, but I guess it shows how shite they are also. If the current eleven face England in Nov, Eng will win easily. Even if DLT are gone they will still probably win as we will be filled with lot of rookies and Eng are now a well oiled, polished, experienced test team. Also all the recent gloating from the Pom Paks Ozys is a bit hollow IMO. If they had destroyed us as they are doing now while Lax, Dravid, Tendu, Gangu were in their late 20s, early 30s then yes it would be a great achievement. As it is, it's like a 25 year old Mike Tyson knocking out a 38 year old Evander Holyfield in the first round and dancing like a lunatic because he think he has achieved something truly great, when really he has just put the final nail in the coffin of a deluded old man who still thought he could compete.

[wobblydoggy]

Wouldn't dream of it mate, there has to be one point in time when you poms are actually proud of your team. :haha: I'm hauling my ass over to England for the ashes next series, should be fun with alot of banter.

I love the banter I was chatting to an Aussi priest here in London before xmas and mentioned if he had enjoyed the cricket. He blanched, I said next series why dont you send your girls team over, they will give us a better game than your current side:giggle: No seriously, I am impressed with Warner Not so sure if you pace attack is going to hold up though, apart from that young kid they are all a bit long in the tooth. Punter looked better, but do you want to risk him over here, too many nightmares:haha: