How confident are you that India will beat Eng/Aus at home?

[deathmonger]

India have no decent spinners - Ashwin/Ojha. Kohli's the only half decent batsman you chaps have left. - Sehwag. Dhoni. Kohli. Plus Sharma, Pujara etc in wings.

[deathmonger]

Jimmy boy owned him in 07 as well.

yeah taking his wkt after he scored runs and was part of a series win.

[Old guy]

India have no decent spinners - Ashwin/Ojha. Kohli's the only half decent batsman you chaps have left. - Sehwag. Dhoni. Kohli. Plus Sharma, Pujara etc in wings.

dhoni? don know but there are many others!

[special K]

Imran's Khan Pakistan won one series out of SC. This current Indian team has four. Also Vaughn's England lost many more tests than the Indian side coz they play a lot of tests. Ashes 2001. Ashes 2002-03. Ashes 2006-07 etc etc come to mind.

Vaughn wasn't England captain in 01 and took over after the 02-03 ashes series. That was Nasser's team. 06-07 ashes he wasn't even there, so that doesn't count. Vaughn was between 03-05.

[adi B]

england have been the laughing stock of world cricket for the past 20 years' date=' now they have tasted a bit of success their fans are going around waving their willys like they are the second coming of jesus. :giggle:[/quote'] egjactly :giggle:

[Number]

Why Special Troll is worried about India so much. the way have we have played in away tests in the last 6 months is same England had been in last 20-25 years both away and home in tests as well as ODIs. bunch of poached players from all across the globe and with all this they are winning at home .. :haha:

[special K]

We've been whitewashed twice in the last 20 years. India have achieved this in the last 6 months. We can't compete with India in the shitness stakes and we tried so hard in the 90's.

[deathmonger]

We've been whitewashed twice in the last 20 years. India have achieved this in the last 6 months. We can't compete with India in the shitness stakes and we tried so hard in the 90's.

even we have been whitewashed twice in the last 20 years. why are you manipulating years to suit you.

[deathmonger]

Vaughn wasn't England captain in 01 and took over after the 02-03 ashes series. That was Nasser's team. 06-07 ashes he wasn't even there, so that doesn't count. Vaughn was between 03-05.

then consider the post chapell pre fletcher team of india. 2007 wc to 2011 wc.

[special K]

even we have been whitewashed twice in the last 20 years. why are you manipulating years to suit you.

Just like you Indians do. Test cricket began in 2007 according to you lot. Forget all the drubbings you took overseas before that.

[special K]

then consider the post chapell pre fletcher team of india. 2007 wc to 2011 wc.

And Vaughn's team between 03-05 in tests was on a level to that team. As was the saffa team in the late 90's. Just those two sides were in the shadow of a dominent Australia.

[Sundar88]

We've been whitewashed twice in the last 20 years. India have achieved this in the last 6 months. We can't compete with India in the shitness stakes and we tried so hard in the 90's.

We've beaten England TWICE in England since when England last beat us in India. Unlike England, we care about doing well in all formats of Cricket and India have won way more ICC trophies than England in those 20 years. To be honest, England also do care about doing well in all formats but they're just not good enough to be competitive in ODI cricket which is why they claim they don't care about it. A series win is a series win and a series loss is a series loss, whether you win a series 4-1 or 5-0 is pretty much irrelevant in the larger scheme of things. India may have been whitewashed twice in the last 6 months but they were also the no.1 ranked team for almost 2 years, while also managing to do well in ODI cricket, winning the world cup. England would NEVER EVER be able to do that.

[Number]

We've beaten England TWICE in England since when England last beat us in India. Unlike England, we care about doing well in all formats of Cricket and India have won way more ICC trophies than England in those 20 years. To be honest, England also do care about doing well in all formats but they're just not good enough to be competitive in ODI cricket which is why they claim they don't care about it. A series win is a series win and a series loss is a series loss, whether you win a series 4-1 or 5-0 is pretty much irrelevant in the larger scheme of things. India may have been whitewashed twice in the last 6 months but they were also the no.1 ranked team for almost 2 years, while also managing to do well in ODI cricket, winning the world cup. England would NEVER EVER be able to do that.

Expect excuses like only Test Cricket is Cricket (becuase we are doing well in it currently at home with our south africa - A).:giggle:

[BeautifulGame]

Whatever it is England are sh1t in ODIs for years.SO they are shite regardless of what they do in test cricket.And i even their wins in test cricket are achieved only after converting themselves to United Nations XI. SO they are shite in every way.

[Sundar88]

Just like you Indians do. Test cricket began in 2007 according to you lot. Forget all the drubbings you took overseas before that.

You keep bringing up stats from several decades ago when every country other than England and Australia had just started playing international cricket, which is silly because Australia and England obviously had a head start. If you want to make a fair comparison of both teams you will have to compare their performances in modern times. Yes India have traditionally been a poor team in overseas conditions, no one is denying that. However England haven't won a series in India since 1985 like I've pointed out several times whereas India did beat England in 1986 and beat them again in 2007. Barring the recent disasters in England and Australia, India haven't done too badly in the last couple of decades.

[Number]

And Vaughn's team between 03-05 in tests was on a level to that team. As was the saffa team in the late 90's. Just those two sides were in the shadow of a dominent Australia.

:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Thrashed by Pakistan in Pakistan. Lost to SL in SL. 1 Ashes and Vaughan = Waugh.. :haha: , well should be after all got some relief after 20 continuous years of utter embarrassment.

[Sundar88]

Really? I don't think that Indian team was better then the saffa side of the late 90's in tests or the England team between 03-05. You say we've got a mediocre history. You do realise that India has a worse win/loss ratio in tests then Sri Lanka? Pretty shameful when you consider they only started playing tests 30 years ago.

Sri Lanka have never won even a single test match in India while India have won series in Sri Lanka. On a head-to-head basis India have won more matches against Sri Lanka than they've lost. The reason why India have a lower win/loss ratio overall is because India played many test matches back when Australia and England were the only other teams that played Cricket. By the time Sri Lanka came along they and the other teams managed to bridge the gap between themselves and those two teams. What's really shameful is the fact that even though Cricket has been played in England since the 16th century they've only managed to be the best test team for about 4 months and have been absolutely PATHETIC in ODI cricket. Even Sri Lanka who gained test status only 30 years ago like you say have more ICC trophies than England. What's more, instead of admitting they suck at their own game, they keep making laughable excuses like "We don't do well in ODI's because we don't care about them" and "We don't do well in world cups because we play the Ashes in the same year". Oddly enough, Australia also plays the Ashes but they've won more world cups than anyone else.

[BERGKAMP]

England truly are pathetic, not one single Englishman (or adopted Englishman :giggle:) in top 10 of all time run scorers or wicket takers, yet these pom trolls are telliing us we are shite at test match cricket with all kinds of weird and wonderful stats and ratios being thrown in our faces :haha::haha::haha::haha: http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/223646.html http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/93276.html Every single nation has at least one bowler except for guess who?? :hysterical:

[deathmonger]

And Vaughn's team between 03-05 in tests was on a level to that team. As was the saffa team in the late 90's. Just those two sides were in the shadow of a dominent Australia.

Vaughn's team did it for less number of years than we did. Post 2005 Ashes you started sucking again. Two series losses to India, Series loss to Indies, Series loss to SA, 5-0 etc etc. Also all those ODI humiliations.

[nballa]

as confident as an Indian can be.