surajmal Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 pussyfied Indians can learn a lot from Israelis. After taking **** from everyone for centuries, they decided enough is enough and took by force what is rightfully theirs. :hatsoff:
chainsmoker1985 Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 Want to tell us what Wahabism actually is? What is the difference in the understanding of the Tawhid as per the Wahabis, Salafis, Ahl -e Hadees and Barelvis? Can you name some prominent Wahabi preachers in India. Which areas are they concentrated in? Do you know what Wahabis think of Hazrat Nizammuddin Auliya? Do you know what they think of the Sufis? The biggest importers of Middle Eastern Oil are China and Japan. Going by your logic, 'wahabism' must be rampant there too. Or are you just throwing around random terms you have absolutely no clue about? Is it a case of elventionary prastiocraniosis on religious zetaphrasology to appear accrumbent? :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: LOLzzzz at you
arun81 Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 ya ... I guess issues like 1947 ' date=' Kashmir, dogged support for Babri masjid , killing cows in temple compounds, countless acts of mass murder were all conducted by martians to malign the good name of Indian muslims [/quote'] +100 Not to mention partying by having the occasional "Blasts" in Mumbai, jaipur, Ahmedabad, Coimbatore etc
seedhi Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 Actually Indian Muslims are pretty good when you compare them to the Arabs and the Pakis' date=' they enjoy living in a democratic country and if you look at India as a whole, Muslims in general have done quite well in our country.[/quote']Err ... Kashmir?? The one state where Muslims are in majority ...
arun81 Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 Err ... Kashmir?? The one state where Muslims are in majority ... muslimes thriving doesn't mean extermination of majority Hindus(in Kashmir)... If you dish something out be prepared to take it back...How did they become a majority in Kashmir ? Do you have anything to say about Kashmiri Pandits
seedhi Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 muslimes thriving doesn't mean extermination of majority Hindus(in Kashmir)... If you dish something out be prepared to take it back...How did they become a majority in Kashmir ? Do you have anything to say about Kashmiri PanditsI agree with you. I had an issue with the blanket statement that Muslims enjoy living in a democratic India, which is fine if we look at where Muslims are in minority, but where in majority i.e. in Kashmir, the supposed joy of living in a democracy disappears and is replaced by separatism. And by the way, this land was torn apart 65 years ago precisely because a majority of the Muslims did not want to live in a democracy. Muslims have shown an utter lack of responsibility in the three big regions in the subcontinent where they are in a majority - pakistan, Kashmir and Bangladesh.
NeutralCat Posted January 30, 2012 Author Posted January 30, 2012 I agree that what has happened in Kashmir is nothing short of genocide by the Muslims on the Hindu Pandits and Christians there, driving them out of the valley. It seems to me like where they are a minority they try and live in peace, but as soon as they become a majority all hell breaks loose.
arun81 Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 I agree with you. I had an issue with the blanket statement that Muslims enjoy living in a democratic India, which is fine if we look at where Muslims are in minority, but where in majority i.e. in Kashmir, the supposed joy of living in a democracy disappears and is replaced by separatism. And by the way, this land was torn apart 65 years ago precisely because a majority of the Muslims did not want to live in a democracy. Muslims have shown an utter lack of responsibility in the three big regions in the subcontinent where they are in a majority - pakistan, Kashmir and Bangladesh. Is Butchering of Hindus lack of responsibility ? Check the demographics of PAK in 1947 and Bangladesh in 1971 and see how many Hindus exist now ..Infact we helped them with Independence
chainsmoker1985 Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 I am boycotting this thread as it has gone completely off-track and some shameless people here are openly saying things against our own Indian Muslims which should not be said. I have always believed that we should always avoid religious arguments and criticizing own countrymen based on that. I want mods to look into it.
hari504504 Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 arun81 ...are you an official member of the RSS ? (just to know)
hari504504 Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 Boycott all you want but do tell why you'd call them shameless? Is it because they're "our own" and hence beyond criticism? Do you think Indians are "our own"? Because browse the chit chat forum and you'll see any number of threads calling Indians sensitive and shameless and worse. Are you boycotting those threads as well? Or is it that you've assumed arbitrarily that it's only religion that's worthy of preferential treatment? None of that matters here because it's a private forum and the mods might not allow certain kinds of discussions but frankly, your post is distilled nonsense. I agree.. there is nothing sacrosanct about "our muslims"..there are bad apples amongst out own, and too bad they are not being weeded out. http://twitpic.com/1br2kp But that shouldn't mean all muslims are labelled the same..and worse.. our foreign policy should be completely anti-Arab.. thats just as the saying goes in my state - " Burning down the house to kill a rat"
NeutralCat Posted January 31, 2012 Author Posted January 31, 2012 We live in India which is a democratic nation, we can talk openly about these things, like I said Indian Muslims are ok, like the Hindus, Christian's they have some bad apples. It's the Arab's and the Pakis I am more worried about, they are the ones with the extreme Sharia law etc and we should all be worried about that.
BeautifulGame Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 +100 Not to mention partying by having the occasional "Blasts" in Mumbai, jaipur, Ahmedabad, Coimbatore etc What the **** are u on about? Do u know anything about Coimbatore blasts or the subsequent riots? Dont talk about stuff u have no clue about.U will come out like an idiot.
arun81 Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 What the **** are u on about? Do u know anything about Coimbatore blasts or the subsequent riots? Dont talk about stuff u have no clue about.U will come out like an idiot. Nothing except i was there on that fateful day and lost someone... Anyways i hope the internet hindus show some spine for their fellow kind when they are slaughtered . No im not from rss..i have nothing else to offer ..so i rest my case
BeautifulGame Posted February 1, 2012 Posted February 1, 2012 Nothing except i was there on that fateful day and lost someone... Yet u say **** like that.Disgusting Do u even know which community got affected more during the riots or which area was more affected :facepalm: Anyways i hope the internet hindus show some spine for their fellow kind when they are slaughtered . No im not from rss..i have nothing else to offer ..so i rest my case Cut this crap.We are the same Hindus who treat other Hindus like Animals in the name of caste.This is the single biggest curse of the country.We need to be ashamed of this before talking about other communities and religions.
NeutralCat Posted February 1, 2012 Author Posted February 1, 2012 Well said BeautifulGame, the caste systems is one of the biggest shames on India.
Vijay.Sharma Posted February 1, 2012 Posted February 1, 2012 Let's all be ashamed of ourselves for being born. OK, now that we are all fairly ashamed of ourselves lets switch back to talking about India-Israel relations...
NeutralCat Posted February 1, 2012 Author Posted February 1, 2012 Anyway back to topic, we need to build up a deeper relationship with Israel, we are learning a lot from them in counter insurgency etc. And it's good to see the people to people relations strong as well, they the Jewish are brilliant business people, do you guys think we can improve our relations with the further?
NeutralCat Posted February 2, 2012 Author Posted February 2, 2012 'The Secret Part Of Indo-Israel Defence Ties Will Remain A Secret' India's foreign policy in West Asia has undergone a sea change over the past decade from being adamantly pro-Arab to one that also engages Israel. India's balancing act, often difficult and messy, is a tight one and not always successful. It is important to remember that Indian passports prohibited travel to Israel as late as 1992, a fact that rankles Israel's newly arrived ambassador Mark Sofer. http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?236728
Mariyam Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 It is delusional to think that Israel would put itself on the line in any future conflict that India gets involved in' date=' our relationship is [b']platonic - we buy the military hardware, pay good money for anything we get from them. If Israel was truly India's "besht-est " friend as is being claimed by some, they wouldn't have sold hardware to China who are the bigger threat to us at the moment. Infact Israel would have even sold China the same AWACS that they sold to us if the Americans hadn't twisted their arm and blocked the sale to China . Lol. The word 'platonic' isn't idoneous in the context of Indian Israeli relations. Its a strategic partnership/ business relationship. An example of a platonic relationship- the one between Ranbir Kapoor and Konkona Sen Sharma in wake up Sid.
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