chainsmoker1985 Posted January 27, 2012 Author Posted January 27, 2012 dont know but no one was able to pick his swing he was the lone good bowler in whole series..if he was fit and playedi n place of ishant we could ve done lot better cos atleast he would ve kept it tight u dont need pace... he can bowl with exceptional contorl and swing both ways.. He is not that good bro that you are making him out to be.... Taking 5-fers for 150-170 is not an exceptional achievement. Yes, he is a good bowler but he cannot turn around the match or won the match on his own. He is decent swing bowler. He was like 'andhon me kana raja' coz everyone was so bad on that tour that Praveen's figures looked good to us. That too when he gets all the support and confidence from Dhoni, in fact extra support as compared to others
Old guy Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 He is not that good bro that you are making him out to be.... Taking 5-fers for 150-170 is not an exceptional achievement. Yes, he is a good bowler but he cannot turn around the match or won the match on his own. He is decent swing bowler. He was like 'andhon me kana raja' coz everyone was so bad on that tour that Praveen's figures looked good to us. That too when he gets all the support and confidence from Dhoni, in fact extra support as compared to others i know but we dont need a steyn.. wht we need is osme one who restricts runs and get 2-3 wickets per innings u know where we lost in bowling? ishant being wayward and not picking wickets.. imagine yadav getting 3 quick ones like he did in 2 matches then zack getting other 2 its 5 down then ishant comes and never picks wickets..and pressure is released im not syaing he is very good im jsut saying in this bowling line up he would ve been effective enough after all u gotta pick wickets as a unit :) and he would ve def not given runs at 5 rpo..can bowl long spells too ..
chainsmoker1985 Posted January 27, 2012 Author Posted January 27, 2012 3. Vinay Kumar's Test career is over. Now hopefully ODI series will take care of his ODI career too ending. 6. The opportunities presented will motivate the upcoming youngsters in the domestic cricket as they now realise that for the first time in 15 years, there are vacancies in the Indian middle order. 3. I really hope that Australians and even Sri-Lankans will take care of ending the career of VK as well. Give them 'supari' too if needed. And I am telling you, Dhoni will not miss a single chance to drop any senior bowler to bring in VK and give him new ball straight away. 6. Now, hopefully in next 1 year max, there will be atleast 3 vacancies in Indian middle order. Such a big opportunity has come in may be two decades nearly and domestic youngsters should make the most of this
Aussie-r-best Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 He is not that good bro that you are making him out to be.... Taking 5-fers for 150-170 is not an exceptional achievement. Yes, he is a good bowler but he cannot turn around the match or won the match on his own. He is decent swing bowler. He was like 'andhon me kana raja' coz everyone was so bad on that tour that Praveen's figures looked good to us. That too when he gets all the support and confidence from Dhoni, in fact extra support as compared to others I am speaking without the knowledge so don't shoot me, but his numbers were really good - Ave 18 or 19 so he must have something... I dont know what opportunities he got or how Dhoni protected him but I was going by numbers and though he looked pretty good.
chainsmoker1985 Posted January 27, 2012 Author Posted January 27, 2012 i know but we dont need a steyn.. wht we need is osme one who restricts runs and get 2-3 wickets per innings u know where we lost in bowling? ishant being wayward and not picking wickets.. imagine yadav getting 3 quick ones like he did in 2 matches then zack getting other 2 its 5 down then ishant comes and never picks wickets..and pressure is released im not syaing he is very good im jsut saying in this bowling line up he would ve been effective enough after all u gotta pick wickets as a unit :) and he would ve def not given runs at 5 rpo..can bowl long spells too .. Even I am not in favor of Ishant till he gets his rhythm back but Praveen is not the ideal choice too. You are saying that he will keep the one end tight but what we ideally need at this moment is a strike bowler alongwith Zaheer and Umesh. Coz if you look at the whole picture, Zaheer is having more bad days than good days and Umesh is a rookie. He is just learning how to set the batsmen, how to get them out, how to stop runs. So when Zaheer and Umesh are having an average time, then what we need is a strike bowler one down. Someone like Peter Siddle or Stuart Broad who can take wickets anytime. The main point is, we cannot have two swing and medium pacers(Zaheer and Praveen) at test level if we have to win abroad.
chainsmoker1985 Posted January 27, 2012 Author Posted January 27, 2012 I am speaking without the knowledge so don't shoot me' date=' but his numbers were really good - Ave 18 or 19 so he must have something... I dont know what opportunities he got or how Dhoni protected him but I was going by numbers and though he looked pretty good.[/quote'] His average is good coz he played 3 tests against WI too before that and there he had quite a good time. He took 12 wickets in 3 tests at 21 odd. Then in favorable conditions in England he took wicket 15 wickets in 3 tests at 30 odd. He actually bowled well only in 1st test 1st innings at Lords where he took 5 wkt haul that saved his whole tour. The rest of the tour was below average for him.
Tendulkar100 Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 You're probably right if the reports are accurate... his injury is career ending and he is lucky to not have lost the digit.... If thats the case it would be a shame... I saw him a couple of times and he was the best keeper I had seen in a while (not keeper batsmen - true keeper) and I say that believe it or not without bias because he is an aussie I've seen some of the Sheffield Shield matches because they have free entry now. Hartley is the best pure keeper in the country. Wade isn't the greatest keeper. For this topic, Kohli looks to be a real good find. He has, as they would say in Australia, ticker and a bit of mongrel. He should do well for himself and he responded well to sledging by scoring a century. He could however do better by not crying to the media but that will come with experience. Yadav looks raw but he has promise.
Ripper Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 Positives out of Australia tour ?? - I learned the habit of getting up early.
Magneto Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 Question what is Asutralia ? Asutralia is the right word. Ankhon mein 'aasu' aa gaya.
Old guy Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 Even I am not in favor of Ishant till he gets his rhythm back but Praveen is not the ideal choice too. You are saying that he will keep the one end tight but what we ideally need at this moment is a strike bowler alongwith Zaheer and Umesh. Coz if you look at the whole picture, Zaheer is having more bad days than good days and Umesh is a rookie. He is just learning how to set the batsmen, how to get them out, how to stop runs. So when Zaheer and Umesh are having an average time, then what we need is a strike bowler one down. Someone like Peter Siddle or Stuart Broad who can take wickets anytime. The main point is, we cannot have two swing and medium pacers(Zaheer and Praveen) at test level if we have to win abroad. lol wht u said even convinced me more that we need him strike bowler l ike yadav wil give away tons of runs on bad day but praveen wont.. and with new ball or on green wicket he is more of attacking option then ishant! i dont care abt pace tbh ishant bowled in 150's wht good did it do ? tbh i watched england series he wasm uch much better then ishant and this argument 5-160 ishant didn't even take that... and zaheer here too never got 5 wickets when australia got 600 u can bowl on ur own u need support ishant beats bat then wide b lla next on legs then full toss then he smiles.. :mad:
Old guy Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 Asutralia is the right word. Ankhon mein 'aasu' aa gaya. :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:
Cricket Tragic Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 How has Ashwin been a positive? His bowling has been pretty mediocre - poor if you want to be harsh. Kohli has improved as the series has gone on. Still has plenty of work to do but the progress was good to see.
bulbul Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 How has Ashwin been a positive? His bowling has been pretty mediocre - poor if you want to be harsh. Kohli has improved as the series has gone on. Still has plenty of work to do but the progress was good to see. you are right...this has been a habit to find some positves out of disasters now a days...there are No positives... Same Kohli struggled against Windies...he has to complete 10/15 more tests to claim a Spot (any way now lot of spots opened it doesnt matter) As for as Ashwin is concerned in pitches not assisting to him he is almost equal to Bhajji in Turning tracks ...his batting wont be excuse ...
singhprakash72 Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 Not sure about Positives for Indian team but for myself 1.Save money by not subscribing cable for Indian tours 2.Get good night of sleep (virtually all Indian tours end up late night telecast for me) 4.More time for value added work. 3.Lastly avoid depression just before going to sleep (hate the most)
King Tendulkar Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 Kohli' date=' Umesh Yadav, Saha and Ashwin definite positives from this tour.[/quote'] Yeah fatwin has been a revelation
Ultimate_Game Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 The only "positive" at intl level, or at any professional level is a win. Rest of the stuff is made up by losers to make themselves feel good.
Old guy Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 The only "positive" at intl level' date=' or at any professional level is a win. Rest of the stuff is made up by losers to make themselves feel good.[/quote'] ouch :((
asterix Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 There are no positives if lessons are not learned.. So no positives..
Cricket Tragic Posted January 27, 2012 Posted January 27, 2012 you are right...this has been a habit to find some positves out of disasters now a days...there are No positives... Same Kohli struggled against Windies...he has to complete 10/15 more tests to claim a Spot (any way now lot of spots opened it doesnt matter) As for as Ashwin is concerned in pitches not assisting to him he is almost equal to Bhajji in Turning tracks ...his batting wont be excuse ... Yeah and he showed improvement, right?
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