Lara V Tendulkar

[Jersey #10]

Note: Ten's career avg: 55.44 (55) (Career not outs 32) Ten's career avg excluding BD and Zim: 52.61 (53) (27 not outs) (when you think of not outs: think of Bevan in ODIs :winky: )

That's amazing! Try excluding minnows from other so called "ATG's". I don't consider any other to be an ATG after the 100th 100. Sachin set the mark too high for others to be taken into consideration now.

[Jimmy Cliff]

I'd pick Tendulkar for live tests & Lara for dead rubbers. Horses for courses. :winky:

[velu]

I'd pick Tendulkar for live tests & Lara for dead rubbers. Horses for courses. :winky:

i would exactly do the opposite , sachin will flop in the first few tests and come good in the later part.. do you want stats ?? :hatsoff:

[vamos_rafa]

i would exactly do the opposite , sachin will flop in the first few tests and come good in the later part.. do you want stats ?? :hatsoff:

I am sure you would briing up the England 2011 series stats. Name atleast 5 series like that to prove this point.

[SachDan]

i would exactly do the opposite , sachin will flop in the first few tests and come good in the later part.. do you want stats ?? :hatsoff:

Gotta admit Lara>SRT against most of the ATG attacks. But in dead rubbers only! :winky:

JC's post from another thread..

[velu]

I am sure you would briing up the England 2011 series stats. Name atleast 5 series like that to prove this point.

do you want me to post or you check it by urself ?? :cantstop::cantstop:

[velu]

JC's post from another thread..

In live matches against McWarne, Tendulkar averaged 45.25 with 2 tons, Lara averaged 42.16 with 2 tons,

it doesnt mean teenda scored 45.25 runs vs McWarne and the same applies to lara :winky: anyway i will check the stats when i am free :two_thumbs_up:

[vamos_rafa]

do you want me to post or you check it by urself ?? :cantstop::cantstop:

You can do the honours. I am a bit caught up with some work.

[velu]

I am sure you would briing up the England 2011 series stats. Name atleast 5 series like that to prove this point.

You can do the honours. I am a bit caught up with some work.

Match Aggregate in tests 1) 46 vs Eng - 2011 ( you gave it ) 2) 52 , 13 vs NZ - 2010 3) 62 vs Aus , 2008 4) 39 , 36 , 20 vs SL - 2008 5) 0 vs SA - 2008 6) 53 vs Eng - 2007 7) 58 , 63 vs SA - 2006 8) 44 , 4 , 35 vs Eng - 2005 9) 14 , 49 vs Pak - 2005 10) 22 vs SL - 2005 11) 3 , 52 vs SA - 2004 12) 10 , 60 vs Aus - 2004 13) 0 , 38 , 44 vs Aus - 2003 14) 59 , 41 , 15, 56 vs NZ - 2002 15) 35 , 59 vs WI - 2002 16) 28 vs Eng - 2002 17) 61 vs Aus - 2001 PS:- Match aggregate till he scores over 70 in a test series. :bow:

[vamos_rafa]

Match Aggregate in tests 1) 46 vs Eng - 2011 ( you gave it ) 2) 52 , 13 vs NZ - 2010 3) 62 vs Aus , 2008 4) 39 , 36 , 20 vs SL - 2008 5) 0 vs SA - 2008 6) 53 vs Eng - 2007 7) 58 , 63 vs SA - 2006 8) 44 , 4 , 35 vs Eng - 2005 9) 14 , 49 vs Pak - 2005 10) 22 vs SL - 2005 11) 3 , 52 vs SA - 2004 12) 10 , 60 vs Aus - 2004 13) 0 , 38 , 44 vs Aus - 2003 14) 59 , 41 , 15, 56 vs NZ - 2002 15) 35 , 59 vs WI - 2002 16) 28 vs Eng - 2002 17) 61 vs Aus - 2001 PS:- Match aggregate till he scores over 70 in a test series. :bow:

How is the NZ test in 2010 a dead rubber? Infact I can hardly see any test series which is a dead rubber here. Most of the matches(I am assuming that you have listed down matches here) are the one's where either India is defending a lead or trying to catch up.

[saneindian]

When its Lara vs Tendulkar - Do not talk of 100s scored in lost causes - Ignore 4th innings record - Ignore the record in the 90s and focus only on the 2000s when Lara was at his peak - Talk of 375 and 400* as innings played for the team cause - Never talk of home vs away record - Ignore the ODIs completely - Ignore the bad record in a country as totally irrelevant When its Ponting vs Sachin - Talk of 100s in match winning causes - Talk of how the team did with both of them in the side - Highlight the 4th innings record - Ignore the record in India - Highlight the 2003 WC final knock/other ODI knocks - Show Ponting as a better cricketer by talking of his prowess as a fielder/Captain And at the end, never ever compare Lara vs Ponting vs Kallis vs Viv vs XYZ. Always use Sachin as the benchmark and then justify it saying its being done to rile up the Sachin Bhakts.

[velu]

How is the NZ test in 2010 a dead rubber? Infact I can hardly see any test series which is a dead rubber here. Most of the matches(I am assuming that you have listed down matches here) are the one's where either India is defending a lead or trying to catch up.

i think we are not in sync, what i tried to prove is , sachin will flop in the first few tests and come good in the later part

i would exactly do the opposite ' date='[b'] sachin will flop in the first few tests and come good in the later part.. do you want stats ?? :hatsoff:

I am sure you would briing up the England 2011 series stats. Name atleast 5 series like that to prove this point.

[Number]

When its Lara vs Tendulkar - Do not talk of 100s scored in lost causes - Ignore 4th innings record - Ignore the record in the 90s and focus only on the 2000s when Lara was at his peak - Talk of 375 and 400* as innings played for the team cause - Never talk of home vs away record - Ignore the ODIs completely - Ignore the bad record in a country as totally irrelevant When its Ponting vs Sachin - Talk of 100s in match winning causes - Talk of how the team did with both of them in the side - Highlight the 4th innings record - Ignore the record in India - Highlight the 2003 WC final knock/other ODI knocks - Show Ponting as a better cricketer by talking of his prowess as a fielder/Captain And at the end, never ever compare Lara vs Ponting vs Kallis vs Viv vs XYZ. Always use Sachin as the benchmark and then justify it saying its being done to rile up the Sachin Bhakts.

Basically XYZ vs Tendulkar , Apply filter where SRT < XYZ and hence proved XYZ > SRT. It's like shoot first and then draw a circle around it and say that's exactly where I wanted to hit.

[vamos_rafa]

i think we are not in sync' date=' what i tried to prove is , [b']sachin will flop in the first few tests and come good in the later part

Oh.. I thought you were trying to prove that Sachin has more runs in dead rubbers as compared to Lara.

[velu]

Oh.. I thought you were trying to prove that Sachin has more runs in dead rubbers as compared to Lara.

never mind .. sachin is still better than laxman in this case ..:winky: llaxman always takes more time to settle :two_thumbs_up:

[saneindian]

i think we are not in sync' date=' what i tried to prove is , [b']sachin will flop in the first few tests and come good in the later part

Really..Statsguru thinks otherwise (unless you filter the data as it suits you) In the 1st test of a series Sachin- 60 tests, 4879 runs@57 with 18 100s Lara- 34 tests, 2482 runs@42 with 6 100s Now because you have included scores in 2nd test of a series as well in the stats you have given , lets look at only the first two tests of a series Sachin- 120 tests, 10219 runs @59 with 37 100s Lara- 69 tests, 5779 runs @48 with 17 100s Not sure if these numbers will ever help, but yeah please do check your numbers before jumping on them.

[velu]

Really..Statsguru thinks otherwise (unless you filter the data as it suits you) In the 1st test of a series Sachin- 60 tests, 4879 runs@57 with 18 100s Lara- 34 tests, 2482 runs@42 with 6 100s Now because you have included scores in 2nd test of a series as well in the stats you have given , lets look at only the first two tests of a series Sachin- 120 tests, 10219 runs @59 with 37 100s Lara- 69 tests, 5779 runs @48 with 17 100s Not sure if these numbers will ever help, but yeah please do check your numbers before jumping on them.

posted after checking the stats :icflove: ( i verified this for both laxman and sachin in other forums and i checked it for dravid and dada too )

Match Aggregate in tests 1) 46 vs Eng - 2011 ( you gave it ) 2) 52 , 13 vs NZ - 2010 3) 62 vs Aus , 2008 4) 39 , 36 , 20 vs SL - 2008 5) 0 vs SA - 2008 6) 53 vs Eng - 2007 7) 58 , 63 vs SA - 2006 8) 44 , 4 , 35 vs Eng - 2005 9) 14 , 49 vs Pak - 2005 10) 22 vs SL - 2005 11) 3 , 52 vs SA - 2004 12) 10 , 60 vs Aus - 2004 13) 0 , 38 , 44 vs Aus - 2003 14) 59 , 41 , 15, 56 vs NZ - 2002 15) 35 , 59 vs WI - 2002 16) 28 vs Eng - 2002 17) 61 vs Aus - 2001 PS:- Match aggregate till he scores over 70 in a test series. :bow:

[saneindian]

posted after checking the stats :icflove: ( i verified this for both laxman and sachin in other forums and i checked it for dravid and dada too )

Care to explain why you have limited yourself to only a few series and not all the series in the last 10 years or in your world only those knocks which suit your agenda matter? No mention of 155 vs SA (2001), 194* vs Pak(2004), 94 vs Pak 2004), 103* vs Eng (2008), 160 vs NZ (2009), 100* vs SL (2009), 100 vs SA (2010), 84 vs SL (2010), 98 vs Aus (2010), 111* vs SA (2010), 76 vs WI (2011) and 73 vs Australia (2011)? Have a look at these stats, update your list and then continue to debate. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=1;match_number=1;orderby=start;orderbyad=reverse;spanmax1=27+Mar+2012;spanmin1=27+Mar+2000;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting;view=innings

[velu]

Care to explain why you have limited yourself to only a few series and not all the series in the last 10 years or in your world only those knocks which suit your agenda matter? No mention of 155 vs SA (2001), 194* vs Pak(2004), 94 vs Pak 2004), 103* vs Eng (2008), 160 vs NZ (2009), 100* vs SL (2009), 100 vs SA (2010), 84 vs SL (2010), 98 vs Aus (2010), 111* vs SA (2010), 76 vs WI (2011) and 73 vs Australia (2011)? Have a look at these stats, update your list and then continue to debate. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=1;match_number=1;orderby=start;orderbyad=reverse;spanmax1=27+Mar+2012;spanmin1=27+Mar+2000;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting;view=innings

blz read my previous posts , and i will quote it for you again :hatsoff:

i would exactly do the opposite , sachin will flop in the first few tests and come good in the later part.. do you want stats ?? :hatsoff:

I am sure you would briing up the England 2011 series stats. Name atleast 5 series like that to prove this point.

[CSK Fan]

Note: Ten's career avg: 55.44 (55) (Career not outs 32) Ten's career avg excluding BD and Zim: 52.61 (53) (27 not outs) (when you think of not outs: think of Bevan in ODIs :winky: )

Yes because not out in ODIs where an innings ends after 50 overs and one can stay not out after facing 2 balls is the same as not outs in tests where there is no over limit and the inning only gets over when you are out or declare. Rett, you do come up with amazing gems