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Well' date=' taste for lyrics is very much personal taste. You may have some fondness for certain kind of words and that reflects in your assessment of lyrics. From Omkara the movie you mentioned in your post, I had liked lyrics of [i']Naina Thag Leinge much more than the lyrics of Bidi jalai le. Don't know if it has something to do with the use of word Naina or with tukbandi or the kind of dialect used.
You are right that lyrics is very much a personal choice. What works for you may not work for me and vice versa. And as I mentioned earlier I am not having a go at Sameer as I have highest regard for anybody who sits down and creates something out of nothing, even Noora Ibrahim. You are also right that Naina Thag lenge was perhaps a much better work lyrics wise. However thats exactly the point. In songs like Naina thag lenge, it is pretty much Gulzar's den, his comfort zone if you will. Gulzar works best when it comes to expressing love, seperation, timeless beauty that kind of things. Naina thag lenge is for the connoisseurs of poetry, Beedi Jalaile is for a thelawala. It is what Yash Chopra calls a des ka gaana, or these days an item number, a song that resonates with masses, and yet there is some stunning lyrics to it all making you celebrate its work. I can not say the same about Sameer here, although being a personal choice it may be other way around for you. By the way if you look at that genre of rustic songs, the great works typically have come from Indivar, Shailendra and Sameer's father Anjaan. Everytime I listen to Chora Ganga Kinaare waala I raise my hat to Anjaan, I am a big Gulzaar fan but I doubt Gulzar saab could have written that, Anjaan is just so comfortable weaving the song..maybe because he was raised in that Benarasi backdrop..something that perhaps goes against Sameer and Rajasthani song. Bhang ka rang jama ho chakachak phir lo paan chabai aisa jhatka lage jiya pe punar-janam ho jaaye...... Now thats a song with simple and yet great lyrics :hatsoff:
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love this song...bollywood? probably folk.
Thats a popular Bihari number prevalent in different forms in Bhojpuri as well as Maithili. The lyricist here is Shailendra, pound for pound the simplest and deepest amongst all that Bollywood has produced..and this includes Gulzar, Sahir, Shakeel, Kaifi, Raja Mehendi Ali Khan etc. Incidentally Shailendra also produced this film - Teesri Kasam.
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Thats a popular Bihari number prevalent in different forms in Bhojpuri as well as Maithili. The lyricist here is Shailendra, pound for pound the simplest and deepest amongst all that Bollywood has produced..and this includes Gulzar, Sahir, Shakeel, Kaifi, Raja Mehendi Ali Khan etc. Incidentally Shailendra also produced this film - Teesri Kasam.
Figured from the dialect. Love Shailendra's work all the way. As for the subject matter, what could be more universal than the traveling mendicant-singer-songwriter falling head over heels for the glimpse of the house-bound damsel who steals looks from behind shuttered windows.
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Figured from the dialect. Love Shailendra's work all the way. As for the subject matter, what could be more universal than the traveling mendicant-singer-songwriter falling head over heels for the glimpse of the house-bound damsel who steals looks from behind shuttered windows.
hence the subtle pinjare waali muniya. Muniya here is meant as Maina (raven) but of course in dialect muniya also means a girl child..in this case Waheeda Rehman. If you spend some time just listening to lyrics it will showcase society of rural nature back then and the society. Jobs like bajaj (the clothe colorer). I suppose such jobs, and words, are slowly vanishing..if not already.
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Speaking of which here's another of my favourites... www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikdvcFwm_7k
Oh yeah the good old days of Rajshri movies when Nadiya ke Paar & Ankhiyon ke Jharokon se were made, and not minted a la modern day incarnation. Nadiya ke Paar was a rage back when it was released. It is a Ravindra Jain special, sung by Hemlata & Jaspal Singh. Ravindra Jain of course was pretty successful in his movie career but somehow he never earnt the respect he deserved, perhaps the same for the two singers. Here is a very unique song featuring the tri-fecta of Jain-Jaspal-Hemlata. It basically is a song composed of dohes of Kabir, Tulsi, Rahim, Bihari etc. One of the rarest songs of its kind to come out of Bollywood. ZfJecWE6ck0
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hence the subtle pinjare waali muniya. Muniya here is meant as Maina (raven) but of course in dialect muniya also means a girl child..in this case Waheeda Rehman. If you spend some time just listening to lyrics it will showcase society of rural nature back then and the society. Jobs like bajaj (the clothe colorer). I suppose such jobs, and words, are slowly vanishing..if not already.
Thanks for reminding this song. In college days or immediately after college it, used to be a must song in all parties that we friends will have, particularly when we are high. But lyrics of song will be more appreciated by thelewales then real poetry lovers as is the case for bidi jalaile..
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Oh yeah the good old days of Rajshri movies when Nadiya ke Paar & Ankhiyon ke Jharokon se were made, and not minted a la modern day incarnation. Nadiya ke Paar was a rage back when it was released. It is a Ravindra Jain special, sung by Hemlata & Jaspal Singh. Ravindra Jain of course was pretty successful in his movie career but somehow he never earnt the respect he deserved, perhaps the same for the two singers. Here is a very unique song featuring the tri-fecta of Jain-Jaspal-Hemlata. It basically is a song composed of dohes of Kabir, Tulsi, Rahim, Bihari etc. One of the rarest songs of its kind to come out of Bollywood. ZfJecWE6ck0
Awesome! Here's one more whose lyrics have stuck... [ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjd4p5EVyVY[/ame]
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Lyrics, as I understand their significance is putting a complex situation into simple, yet poetic words - sounds too "complex". It isn't actually. How would you put into words a simple day to day situation that someone ignored you? ---- Dude, that guy didn't give a frack ---- Man, why are we talking about that fracker ----- Hello? ------ Then Gulzar would say, "Patthar ki haveli ko, sheeshon ke gharondoin mein, tinkon ke nasheman tak, is mod se jaate hain" Verbose, yeah, but conveyed the feelings that needed to be and couldn't be in fewer words, than you or I would have been able to convey the exact juncture. For me, lyrics are the backbone of a song. Sometimes you need a minimum number of words to express your exact thoughts, and when they rhyme and connect one becomes a poet.

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