Younis Khan: World's Best 4th inng Batsman...

[DomainK]

Knowing Pakistan's batting history Younis probably played most of his 4th innings on the 3rd day' date=' the best time to bat on Test wickets.[/quote'] :haha::haha::haha::haha::haha: Good one. But still, he scored those runs. So, credit to him.

[Ultimate_Game]

Younis Khan became the first Pakistani batsman to score 1000+ runs in fourth innings of Tests He is among one of only five batsmen to score four hundreds in 4th innings He average the highest (59.70) among batsmen who've scored at least 1000 fourth-innings runs :hatsoff: Taken from Article: The fourth-innings story for Pakistan and Younis Khan

How many were scored in wins? Scoring cheap runs when the team is losing by 100+ and the result of the match is a foregone conclusion doesn't count for much. I would much rather have someone like Laxman who actually wins you matches while scoring in the 4th innings.

[Laaloo]

Knowing Pakistan's batting history Younis probably played most of his 4th innings on the 3rd day' date=' the best time to bat on Test wickets.[/quote'] :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

[Zap_Brannigan]

All stats like this or best player in matches won, only shows how poor they are otherwise. I remember a lot of the "Inzi is the greatest match winner" posts. I dont agree. If a person avergaes 60 in matches won but 15 in matches lost, that doesnt make him the best match winner, that only makes him the biggest match loser. Besides, in context of the game, it really doesnt matter if the runs are scored 1st or 2nd. They all add up equally as there is no weight-age. Atleast in the 1st innings, a good score can either setup a follow on or avoid one.

[Marut]

All stats like this or best player in matches won, only shows how poor they are otherwise. I remember a lot of the "Inzi is the greatest match winner" posts. I dont agree. If a person avergaes 60 in matches won but 15 in matches lost, that doesnt make him the best match winner, that only makes him the biggest match loser. Besides, in context of the game, it really doesnt matter if the runs are scored 1st or 2nd. They all add up equally as there is no weight-age. Atleast in the 1st innings, a good score can either setup a follow on or avoid one.

When you know that the match is truly lost well before it happens, it is easy to make some quick runs that are useless to the team as there is no pressure. Haven't you seen batsmen freely swing their arms without pressure when they know their team does not have a shred of chance to draw or win? That is why runs and averages in a winning cause matter more. The same thing is true of big scores made in high scoring draws. These runs must be excluded before comparing the true worth of the players. Fourth innings runs are runs scored under pressure, if scored in a stiff chase( won or lost). They don't meant much in high scoring draws or one sided defeats.

[Zap_Brannigan]

When you know that the match is truly lost well before it happens' date=' it is easy to make some quick runs that are useless to the team as there is no pressure. Haven't you seen batsmen freely swing their arms without pressure when they know their team does not have a shred of chance to draw or win? That is why runs and averages in a winning cause matter more. The same thing is true of big scores made in high scoring draws. These runs must be excluded before comparing the true worth of the players. Fourth innings runs are runs scored under pressure, if scored in a stiff chase( won or lost). They don't meant much in high scoring draws or one sided defeats.[/quote'] Runs in a winning cause means more?How about not getting runs in the "losing cause". If they had scored runs, then they might not be losing. Consider this, team A bats 1st and gets 300 player 1 scoring 0, team B gets 250 with player 2 scoring 0. Team A gets another 300 with player 1 scoring 150. Now team B needs to chase down 350. Player 2 now scores a 150 which leaves the other 9 players to score 200. Alternate universe : Player 2 gets a 150 in 1st innings and a 0 in 2nd innings. That means team B needs 200 from the remaining 9 batsmen. Same as before. Alt alt univ : Player 1 gets 150 in the 1st innings, which means that team A scores 450 in 1st innings taking a 200 run lead. This gives them the option of enforcing a followon. In the scheme of the game, Player 2's 150 doesn't matter whether its in the 1st innings or the 2nd innings . The rest of his team needs to score 451 runs to win the game. Player 1's 150, had it come in the 1st innings, would have given the option of a followon.