Crookbond Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 I don't see these ads anymore. Not worth it i suppose. Their real strengths lie in their toys iphone' date=' ipad.[/quote'] Windows Phone and Microsoft Surface Tablet (including Samsung's Galaxy and Galaxy Tab plus Google Nexus) are also toys! :woot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakat Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 lol at vvs trying to get away with calling iphone and ipad toys. :hehe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakat Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Mac is like Tendulkar. Gets bad rep because of fans (not you guys) :cantstop: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant that's a wrong analogy. [Load classic ICF debater rationalization routine for proving any analogy wrong] Tendulkar is a cricketer. Mac is a computer. Tendulkar is a human. Mac is a machine. Tendulkar is only one. Macs are mass-produced and there are millions. Tendulkar has a brain. Macs have an intel chip and an OS. /repeat till convinced that your point has been made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 lol at vvs trying to get away with calling iphone and ipad toys. :hehe: he owns iPhone i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 lol at vvs trying to get away with calling iphone and ipad toys. :hehe: i own an iphone :cantstop: . It is a toy man.. but good one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Windows Phone and Microsoft Surface Tablet (including Samsung's Galaxy and Galaxy Tab plus Google Nexus) are also toys! :woot: ofcourse they are all toys . !! all tablets are toys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vvvslaxman Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 that's a wrong analogy. [Load classic ICF debater rationalization routine for proving any analogy wrong] Tendulkar is a cricketer. Mac is a computer. Tendulkar is a human. Mac is a machine. Tendulkar is only one. Macs are mass-produced and there are millions. Tendulkar has a brain. Macs have an intel chip and an OS. /repeat till convinced that your point has been made But fanboys are the same :cantstop: relentless defending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 ofcourse they are all toys . !! all tablets are toys. And girl friends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 But fanboys are the same :cantstop: relentless defending just for fun :--D any way all gadgets are like toys ..you cant take them too seriously neither depend on them too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakat Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 i own an iphone :cantstop: . It is a toy man.. but good one though. that's irrelevant. You are on this thread defending the pc side and for you to talk of the iphone and ipad (why only apple products) as toys means you are making a point. It's even funny that you intend it as a pejorative term personally, i think it's a great thing about it that you think of it as a toy, that it's something you play with as a user. That's a wonderful thing for any product development team to hear. In fact, this is one of the factors jobs worked assiduously to inject in every apple product. That it should be fun, fill a user with childish glee and enthusiasm when interacting with the product. So yes, apple products are toys and that's why they make a difference in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakat Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 i own an iphone :cantstop: . It is a toy man.. but good one though. But fanboys are the same :cantstop: relentless defending Exactly. It's funny that people think windows can even match up to osx as a os - when it comes to usability, stability and security. there are also those who aren't even defending anything. All they care about is to fight the notion that MACs kick serious butt. lulz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akshayxyz Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 that's irrelevant. You are on this thread defending the pc side and for you to talk of the iphone and ipad (why only apple products) as toys means you are making a point. It's even funny that you intend it as a pejorative term personally, i think it's a great thing about it that you think of it as a toy, that it's something you play with as a user. That's a wonderful thing for any product development team to hear. In fact, this is one of the factors jobs worked assiduously to inject in every apple product. That it should be fun, fill a user with childish glee and enthusiasm when interacting with the product. So yes, apple products are toys and that's why they make a difference in the world. Ideally, child like enthusiasm/glee should have nothing to do with the product. It has to come from the user. Give a kid a 10Rs tennis ball, or a 10$ tennis ball - he would be equally happy, until you start feeding the information why costlier ball is better. Roots of the enthusiasm/happiness should be in - how a user wants to use, and not how the product is designed to be used. It is a property of conscious beings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 that's irrelevant. You are on this thread defending the pc side and for you to talk of the iphone and ipad (why only apple products) as toys means you are making a point. It's even funny that you intend it as a pejorative term did u forgot IPL so soon :giggle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akshayxyz Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Ohh, also - remember that rich kid with costlier toys. He knows within himself - the novelty factor of shiny/expensive toys wears off quite soon. He just keeps deluding himself, as long as there is at least one poor kid to show off his toys to :), or until the next costlier toy arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakat Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Ideally, child like enthusiasm/glee should have nothing to do with the product. It has to come from the user. Give a kid a 10Rs tennis ball, or a 10$ tennis ball - he would be equally happy, until you start feeding the information why costlier ball is better. Roots of the enthusiasm/happiness should be in - how a user wants to use, and not how the product is designed to be used. It is a property of conscious beings. When you are a child you will find joy in playing in mud, you will spend hours with an empty cardboard box. The apple products are aimed at adults who have been exposed to a lot, have seen a lot and are as a result jaded and cynical. They have lost the state of childhood, a state that makes exiles of us all. For them to discover childish joy in interacting with a product is an achievement of product development. It comes from interacting with the product. And the interaction is based wholly on how intelligently the product is designed. Every little thing is there by design, after careful thought, after discarding scores of other options. So when a user feels joy, it's credit goes to the product developers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 Ideally, child like enthusiasm/glee should have nothing to do with the product. It has to come from the user. Give a kid a 10Rs tennis ball, or a 10$ tennis ball - he would be equally happy, until you start feeding the information why costlier ball is better. Roots of the enthusiasm/happiness should be in - how a user wants to use, and not how the product is designed to be used. It is a property of conscious beings. but here most of the people who buy these gadgets are aware of the product,how it works,which one suits them better... so whenever a anticipated product launched out they will be obviously feel child like enthusiasm mainly because of anticipation of product from the launch date to the actual sale date ...nothing wrong in that... people laugh @ que in front of Apple stores during a major product release...but for the people who stand in que its a event,time for having fun , some social bonding etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prakat Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 ^ Also a good toy keeps on giving over the years. And we are discussing about something that's actually more than a toy. So the toy aspect of it is just one small thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 One of the reasons why Apple follows a Skeuomorphic Design is to make the digital world as close to "reality". Android is hybrid and Microsoft is just purely digital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akshayxyz Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 When you are a child you will find joy in playing in mud, you will spend hours with an empty cardboard box. The apple products are aimed at adults who have been exposed to a lot, have seen a lot and are as a result jaded and cynical. They have lost the state of childhood, a state that makes exiles of us all. For them to discover childish joy in interacting with a product is an achievement of product development. It comes from interacting with the product. And the interaction is based wholly on how intelligently the product is designed. Every little thing is there by design, after careful thought, after discarding scores of other options. So when a user feels joy, it's credit goes to the product developers. You missed the keywords "ideally, should..." I was not countering the Apple's design efforts in designing to catch eyes of its product users. I just said - ideally - the joy/enthusiasm has to come from how/what you want to use the product, and not which product you want to use. There are/have-been adults, who must have had as much joy(most likely more and purer) tweaking bits and bytes on VT100 console - as compared to someone "downloading/playing new apps on new shiny iPhone everyday". So, like every other expensive toy - novelty factor (must) wear off. After that it is upto the user, and what he does with it - esp in matters of joy/enthusiasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akshayxyz Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 but here most of the people who buy these gadgets are aware of the product' date=how it works,which one suits them better... so whenever a anticipated product launched out they will be obviously feel child like enthusiasm mainly because of anticipation of product from the launch date to the actual sale date ...nothing wrong in that... people laugh @ que in front of Apple stores during a major product release...but for the people who stand in que its a event,time for having fun , some social bonding etc Not necessarily true. As for enthusiasm of lining up in the queue for THE new iPod7.6S. A true music lover, does not need (every) next version of iPod. It smells more of superficiality, herd/cult-mentality, than deep/true love for music. Also, a true learned user - will not take the pains to stand up in the queue before the actual market feedback. Those pre-release herd-ings are what gives bad rep (IMO) to apple products, among true-geeks/honest-consumers of technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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