Rajiv Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 H1MrFOOaXcQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 which part of the game has tht sonovabeatch not cheated.... if he is trying to run someone out, the facker is supposed to stand near the stumps to collect the throw.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holysmoke Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 shoaib is a disgrace to this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dravid Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 ^^oye dont single out ppl whole paki team is a disgrace :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MundaPakistani Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 if any one is blaming Shoiab for the collision then they are simply kidding themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 if any one is blaming Shoiab for the collision then they are simply kidding themselves. Agree. Surely Shoaib couldnt have possibly predicted Sachin would also be ball-watching. If Sachin had for even a second , glanced at the non-strikers end while running back , he would have seen Shoaib and could have easily avoided him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Akhtar is not to be blamed for the collision but Akram should have withdrawn the appeal after he found out Tendulkar had grounded his bat before the collision in the spirit of the game. Ofcourse, easier said than done given how much is at stake in India-Pakistan matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Akhtar is not to be blamed for the collision but Akram should have withdrawn the appeal after he found out Tendulkar had grounded his bat before the collision in the spirit of the game. Ofcourse' date=' easier said than done given how much is at stake in India-Pakistan matches.[/quote'] The appeal was spontaneous. You couldnt possibly expect the Pakistanis to think of sportsmanship in such a high-voltage situation. And lets say Shoaib hadnt obstructed Sachin at all . Whats the guarantee he wouldnt have been run-out still ? Given it was a direct hit from the deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 And lets say Shoaib hadnt obstructed Sachin at all . Whats the guarantee he wouldnt have been run-out still ? Given it was a direct hit from the deep. Tendulkar had already grounded his bat inside the crease before the collision. It's probably not that easy to make out from the angle posted here but I remember it quite clearly from the side on view, so there was no question of him being run out in the absence of the collision. It was not even a clear decision by law because a batsman cannot be given run out if he leaves the crease to avoid injury. Tendulkar had gone to the match referee after the incident and the match referee agreed to as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Here is from Prem Panicker's article : Back to the controversy of yesterday, meanwhile. It took a few phone calls to track down the dramatis personae -- none of whom, for obvious reasons, can talk, at least on record. But from what I managed to piece together what transpired out there. When the appeal was made and it was referred to the third umpire, Dravid and Tendulkar met in mid-pitch, and Tendulkar smilingly told Dravid not to worry, as he had grounded his bat behind the line well ahead of deadline. The red light shocked Tendulkar to the core, as was in any event apparent in the way he dragged himself off the ground. Immediately on reaching the pavilion, Tendulkar headed for the match referee's cubicle and, within a toucher of tears, pointed out the relevant section of the rule book. It reads: Either batsman shall be out run out if in running or at any time while the ball is in play -- except in the circumstances described in Law 39. (Stumped) -- he is out of his ground and his wicket is put down by the opposite side. If, however, a batsman in running makes good his ground he shall not be out Run Out, if he subsequently leaves his ground, in order to avoid injury, and the wicket is put down. Tendulkar's argument -- a well taken one -- was that when he grounded his bat at the bowler's end, as he clearly had done, he had completed his run. The lifting of the bat subsequently was due to the collision, which comes under the 'in order to avoid injury' clause. And that, therefore, he could not have been given out, under the laws. He insisted that the match referee take another look at the replay, which was why the incident was shown two, three times while Azhar was at the crease. Cammie Smith, the match referee, rubbed salt in the wounds by consolingly informing the Indian batsman that he had a point, but that in any case, nothing could now be done about it as the next batsman had already addressed a few deliveries. Tendulkar then went back to the dressing room in tears -- and was less than enthused when, immediately thereafter, the officials, with Dalmiya for company, asked him to take a walk around the stadium and cool things down. That lack of enthusiasm in any case showed in the way he performed that duty, walking the perimeter with his head down, occasionally coming up with a half-hearted wave. http://www.rediff.com/sports/1999/feb/20a.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Hmm.. Thanks for the article Shwetabh. I had forgotten he had grounded the bat before the collision took place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fineleg Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Shoaib Chuckther Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacsachin Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 yeah.....Shoaib should not be blamed for the collision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainfade Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Lost in this discussion is the brilliance of the throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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