ganeshran Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 Its not the conditions' date= its the players - they're mediocre. Blamed conditions for a while now, got the conditions the bowlers wanted and they choked +1
Stuge Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 why? there is no other hope .you're not agreeing as if we have some other option . We played bad cricket in this match .our bowling and batting was crap to say the least .
Iconoclast Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 Obvious double talk from Dhoni ... with the loss of Dravid and Laxman ... Indian batting is mostly FTB's like Sehwag and himself. I'm sure he and the BCCI are seeing to it that the Eden Gardens track will have very little turn and bounce.
Trichromatic Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 On a pitch where English spinners wrecked havoc and produced our worst collapse, our spinners struggled to buy even one wicket. You can't blame conditions, if you perform like this.
CG Posted November 26, 2012 Author Posted November 26, 2012 Sometimes when the pitch isn't offering what you need' date=' you need to create it yourself. They should have bowled a tad quicker. There were criticisms in the first test that our spinners were too slow at times. They need to learn and adapt[/quote'] There are diff styles Indian spinners tried to bowl faster but could not turn it. http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-england-2012/engine/current/match/565807.html The average speed diff was not much.Our spinners depend on loop,dip in case of ojha and variation in caser of ahwin drift and bounce
CG Posted November 26, 2012 Author Posted November 26, 2012 there is no other hope .you're not agreeing as if we have some other option . We played bad cricket in this match .our bowling and batting was crap to say the least . Did we not win by 9 wickets in ahmedabad.
saneindian Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 Absolutely nothing wrong in it. Such pitches produce thrilling cricket , there would be no easy runs and it will also force the batsmen to work harder on their game. Granted we lost, but that was more due to our own complacence (and also KP's brilliance). A similar pitch may see some of the players not repeat the mistakes they made here.
CG Posted November 26, 2012 Author Posted November 26, 2012 Absolutely nothing wrong in it. Such pitches produce thrilling cricket , there would be no easy runs and it will also force the batsmen to work harder on their game. Granted we lost, but that was more due to our own complacence (and also KP's brilliance). A similar pitch may see some of the players not repeat the mistakes they made here. These are lotteries like seaming tracks nothing else.One good perfromance can turn the match.Its better to prepare a normal track which help fast bowlers in some form and spin later rather than prepare turners .
Trichromatic Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 These are lotteries like seaming tracks nothing else.One good perfromance can turn the match.Its better to prepare a normal track which help fast bowlers in some form and spin later rather than prepare turners . Dustbowls and greentops are lotteries, but this pitch looked far from being lottery. It was not that bad to bat on.
CG Posted November 26, 2012 Author Posted November 26, 2012 Dustbowls and greentops are lotteries' date=' but this pitch looked far from being lottery. It was not that bad to bat on.[/quote'] It was turning from 1st session,The curator left a bit of grass which made the ball skid sometimes. We need good pitches where all skills of cricket can be showcased. Eden Gardens has always helped swing bowlers so we will be going with 2 pacers probably.
Trichromatic Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 It was turning from 1st session,The curator left a bit of grass which made the ball skid sometimes. We need good pitches where all skills of cricket can be showcased. Eden Gardens has always helped swing bowlers so we will be going with 2 pacers probably. At the end a lot will depend on how Ashwin bowls.
Swing_n_Speed Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 I'll back Dhoni all the way. This was just a bad day at the office. I'm sure we'll bounce back.
indiaregulator Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 I think India should create a swinging greentop for the next test instead. It's obvious you guys can't play spin so why don't you try the other option ;)
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