rkt.india Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Flattest pitches on earth where bowlers are probably treated like donkeys' date=' difference in coaching/ fitness levels, lack of incentive (being a spinner is easier on Indian pitches) fear of injury, diet (for many Indians it's a factor).[/quote'] Pitches have nothing to do with bowling fast.
rkt.india Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 wasnt there a de villiers ? he looked as good as bird :P No not that. Those pitches made him look good. He was good when I first saw him 3 years back but injuries affected him a lot. He has barely played much FC in last few years.
rkt.india Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Just wondering' date=' what are your thoughts on Ishant, Dinda ?[/quote'] Ishant is just an average bowler. Dinda below average. Kleinvelt is an average bowler too.
rkt.india Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 SA have good depth as well.De Lange Morris and two more bowlers who played in the CLT20.They all can bowl at 140 plus. Only Morris and Lange. no one else.
vandokkum Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Pitches have nothing to do with bowling fast. Are you kidding me? Pitches have a lot to do with bowling fast, quick/ bouncy pitches encourage kids to want to bowl fast. Why do you think Aussies/ SA always produce good quick pacers?
rkt.india Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Are you kidding me? Pitches have a lot to do with bowling fast' date=' quick/ bouncy pitches encourage kids to want to bowl fast. Why do you think Aussies/ SA always produce good quick pacers?[/quote'] Fast bowling depends a lot on built and genes too. Why do you think you mostly see blacks in 100 meters? Why they have been so dominant? PK will never bowl 145k on whatever pitch he bowls. Pace is a natural thing. Either you are born with it or not. You can increase your pace and there are exceptions who started at 80 mph and then increased it to 90 mph, but they are exceptions, not norms.
Trundler27 Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Almost all aussie reserve pacers are in what we would call the 'medium-fast' range..... bird, cutting, mckay, kane richardson, maxwell (trundler), dan christian (trundler) cummins is the only express bowler they have in their setup that i have seen over the past year. Siddle, starc, and johnson are a bit quicker too but they are not consistently fast. However, the common theme among all the aussie bowlers is their discipline and intelligence. We wouldn't see them bowling stupid length balls when the ball is not swinging. Similarly we don't see them bowling short and wide for at least 3-4 balls each over with the occasional full-toss thrown in for good measure.... they bowl as a unit and bowl to a plan
Malcolm Merlyn Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Only Morris and Lange. no one else. Ethan O reilley is very quick.There is another bowler whose name i have forgotten.
rkt.india Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Almost all aussie reserve pacers are in what we would call the 'medium-fast' range..... bird, cutting, mckay, kane richardson, maxwell (trundler), dan christian (trundler) cummins is the only express bowler they have in their setup that i have seen over the past year. Siddle, starc, and johnson are a bit quicker too but they are not consistently fast. However, the common theme among all the aussie bowlers is their discipline and intelligence. We wouldn't see them bowling stupid length balls when the ball is not swinging. Similarly we don't see them bowling short and wide for at least 3-4 balls each over with the occasional full-toss thrown in for good measure.... they bowl as a unit and bowl to a plan Cutting and Richardson both can clock close 90 mph and Maxwell is spinner, mainly a batsman. Christian is not even counted. Their main young upcoming bowlers are Cummins, Pattinson, Starc, Hazelwood, Alister McDermott, Kane Richardson, Coulter-Nile, Michael Nesser, and Ben cutting and all can clock over 140K and remember apart from Cutting and Coulter-Nile, all others are in their low 20s and will only get quicker in next 2-3 years.
rkt.india Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Fast times ahead for Australian cricket As Australia look to kick off their New Year in style on January 3, a number of young quicks around the country will be looking to follow in the paths of Patrick Cummins and James Pattinson. The up-and-coming options are exciting. Josh Hazlewood is spoken of very highly in Australian circles, and already earned his ODI debut and a place on the last tour to India before a stress fracture in his back halted his rise. He missed most of last season through injury, but after a slow start to the season, Hazlewood has finally cracked his four-wicket hoodoo, after having gone nine matches without a four-wicket haul. Ben Cutting can be considered one of the unluckiest bowlers going around. After being overlooked for Mitchell Starc in the first Test of the summer, he subsequently injured himself in a match for Queensland which has ruled him out for the year. After StarcÃÔ less-than-impressive debut series and the injuries to Ryan Harris and Cummins, Cutting could otherwise have found himself making his debut on Boxing Day. In 2009/10 Cutting took 46 scalps in Shield cricket and was on the verge of Australian selection. Injury struck soon after and with it went his 2010/11 season. At 24, he is still very much in the frame, and should he continue his wicket-taking ways, he will once again be on the verge of higher honours. James Faulkner is another who is highly regarded after being part of the 2007/08 Australian U19 squad. At the time Shane Watson had yet to make his mark for Australia and the search was still on for that elusive all-rounder. Faulkner was being touted as one for the future. Shane Watson has since become the premier all-rounder Australia have been looking for, while Faulkner has figures that would make him a very useful bowling all-rounder. He may yet become a player capable of batting in the top seven, but at the moment, he would be picked for his bowling. With 66 wickets at 24, you wonÃÕ find many people complaining. Nathan Coulter-Nile would be the first Western Australian quick to represent Australia since Brad Williams. He has been around the WA setup for a few years, and in 2010 he finally got his chance. Since his Shield debut, Coulter-Nile has 41 wickets from nine matches at 23.58. Injury again prevented him from carrying on this form and possibly pushing for Australian selection, however he is back and will be looking to regain his spot in WAÃÔ Shield side. Kane Richardson has big raps on him, and the Big Bash commentators on Fox Sports have mentioned that his action is very similar to Pat Cummins? At the moment he is still finding his feet, and with a home ground like the Adelaide Oval, he will take a bit longer than other quicks around the country to break through. But if he does, he will be well prepared for the next level. Michael Neser appears to have gone the way of Ryan Harris in the off season, with his speed readings this season including a 147km/h ball against the Scorchers. He rates himself as a batting all rounder, but with speeds like that he could easily fill in as a bowling all rounder. Should Neser fulfill his wish he will gain comparisons with Andrew Flintoff, who also bowled at that pace while batting in the top six Alister McDermott is another quick from Queensland who is the son of current bowling coach Craig McDermott. HeÃÔ made a solid start to his first-class career but it is his limited-overs bowling which is making headlines. In 15 matches he has 27 wickets at 22.92, and the ODI setup has always been a good pathway to the Test side, as Cummins has shown. Queensland has a new-found depth that is starting to rival that of New South Wales, and Nick Buchanan is the son of former Australian coach John Buchanan. Nick was talked up before the start of the Big Bash as being this seasonÃÔ Pat Cummins, capable of hitting 140km/h with the potential to crack the 150 mark. Thus far he hasnÃÕ quite lived up to that billing, but standing at 196cm, it is likely you will see more of him in the future. Ryan Duffield made his debut last season and added to the promising showings by quicks across the country, taking 34 wickets from eight matches at 25.44. Like other bowlers mentioned so far, injury halted his season, but he made his comeback in the Ryobi Cup and will be pushing for a starting spot with this seasonÃÔ leading wicket-taker, Michael Hogan. He has the added advantage of being a leftie, and the current selectors, like the former ones, appear to like that variation. I will stop there, but some other names to look forward to include another pair of lefties in Josh Lalor and Jason Behrendorff, who played in the tour match against India, and Jackson Bird, who had a Trent Copeland-like debut in his second match against Victoria. Interesting and exciting times await Australia and their fast bowlers. This decade may well rival the batting depth seen in the 1990s and 2000s, when guys like Jamie Siddons, David Hussey, Michael Di Venuto, and so on could not break into the Australian batting line-up. http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/01/03/fast-times-ahead-for-australian-cricket/
Sean Bradley Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 good to see good fast bowlers coming through the ranks in most teams..just the matter of time for aussies to find the right combination and get back to their good old dominating days...cricket was allot better when australia dominated the game.
Trundler27 Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Cutting and Richardson both can clock close 90 mph and Maxwell is spinner, mainly a batsman. Christian is not even counted. Their main young upcoming bowlers are Cummins, Pattinson, Starc, Hazelwood, Alister McDermott, Kane Richardson, Coulter-Nile, Michael Nesser, and Ben cutting and all can clock over 140K and remember apart from Cutting and Coulter-Nile, all others are in their low 20s and will only get quicker in next 2-3 years. You have posted a nice article and perhaps it is true that the aussies have a lot of exciting fast bowling talent but it is also interesting to note that most of the names mentioned in that article are those of bowlers who have already suffered significant injuries! IMO I don't see 80% of these guys playing test cricket for Australia (which might be due to their depth) but also due to the fact that they may not have the intangibles of someone like a siddle or pattinson. I do respect how the aussies draw a correct path for all their players to follow in order to make it to the highest level , ie, succeed at the first class level for a number of years to set yourself apart from the rest while having superior ability
srij Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 doug bollinger and ryan harris are decent odi bowlers
Scarves Posted October 16, 2013 Posted October 16, 2013 doug bollinger and ryan harris are decent odi bowlers No. God No. Bollinger should never be close to the team.
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