Raghav_12 Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Dhoni kept wickets so that's not an easy task too. He wasn't keeping wicket when he was batting. While you bat, it's about batting skills.
CG Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 DK played against all the top teams in away conditions mostly.He is a better test batsman than dhoni and if he gets a long run he will be a very good Wk batsman.Regarding Keeping he has great agility against pacers,He had problem against kumble as he used to get up a tad early but he seems to have got better at keeping to spinners.
CG Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Dhoni kept wickets so that's not an easy task too. Opening in such conditions and scoring runs is rare feat for indian batsman ,the series was dominated by bowlers,there were few centuries.
Number Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 He wasn't keeping wicket when he was batting. While you bat' date=' it's about batting skills.[/quote'] Wicketkeeping does affect the batting.
Number Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Wicketkeeping in such conditions and also scoring runs is rare feat for indian batsman ' date=the series was dominated by bowlers,there were few centuries. fixed.
Trichromatic Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 DK played against all the top teams in away conditions mostly.He is a better test batsman than dhoni and if he gets a long run he will be a very good Wk batsman.Regarding Keeping he has great agility against pacers' date=He had problem against kumble as he used to get up a tad early but he seems to have got better at keeping to spinners. :hmmm: Just 4 matches in England and SA.
CG Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 fixed. Sorry It seems u did not watch the series dhoni was horrible in the series as a wk and He struggled with the ball swinging late after passing the stumps. Opening patnerhsip was what won india the series.
CG Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 :hmmm: Just 4 matches in England and SA. He has played 14 tests away from 23.Srilanka in 2008 with muruli and mendis were no pushovers.
Trichromatic Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 He has played 14 tests away from 23.Srilanka in 2008 with muruli and mendis were no pushovers. and he failed against Mendis and Murli. Even when he scored a half century at Lords, Dhoni scored more than him. Same at Oval - KD scored 91 and Dhoni 92 - all that while KD was playing as batsman and Dhoni as wk-batsman. 7 matches in Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.
CG Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 and he failed against Mendis and Murli. Even when he scored a half century at Lords' date=' Dhoni scored more than him. Same at Oval - KD scored 91 and Dhoni 92 - all that while KD was playing as batsman and Dhoni as wk-batsman.[/quote'] U do understand Dk was opening.It was the second test where the conditions were most difficult where jaffar and karthik opening gave us the platform to win the series.
Trichromatic Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 U do understand Dk was opening.It was the second test where the conditions were most difficult where jaffar and karthik opening gave us the platform to win the series. Yes he did better in that test, but does that one inning makes him better than Dhoni while later has outbatted him on many occasions?
CG Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Yes he did better in that test' date=' but does that one inning makes him better than Dhoni while later has outbatted him on many occasions?[/quote'] :hysterical: Outbatted huh.No 7 batsman outbatting opening batsman by 1 run .u joking or what
Trichromatic Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 :hysterical: Outbatted huh.No 7 batsman outbatting opening batsman by 1 run .u joking or what Yeah, scoring as many runs as wk-batsman on a flat track and then no 7 batsman saving a test certainly makes DK better batsman. :giggle:
Number Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Sorry It seems u did not watch the series dhoni was horrible in the series as a wk and He struggled with the ball swinging late after passing the stumps. Opening patnerhsip was what won india the series. Karthik's role was important in Eng series. But there is no excuse for failing for 8-9 innings on trot after that. Opening in Indian conditions is much easier job than playing at no. 7. Dhoni's keeping was ok, don't recall him dropping many, in England most keepers struggle.
CG Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Yeah' date=' that certainly makes DK better batsman than Dhoni. :giggle:[/quote'] Have a look at dhoni fc average and dk fc average.
SLICKR392 Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Have a look at dhoni fc average and dk fc average. Have a look at the Int. averages as well. MS's FC avg. is almost as that of DK's FC avg.
Trichromatic Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Have a look at dhoni fc average and dk fc average. Why not just look at their test records?
CG Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Karthik's role was important in Eng series. But there is no excuse for failing for 8-9 innings on trot after that. Opening in Indian conditions is much easier job than playing at no. 7. Dhoni's keeping was ok, don't recall him dropping many, in England most keepers struggle. It was always going to be difficult for karthik with dhoni in the team.He had to open the batting a position which is the hardest in cricket and he is not a regular opener .He failed in one series and he was out.He came back against srilanka in the mendis series where no indian batsman picked medis and struggled.
SLICKR392 Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 He wasn't keeping wicket when he was batting. While you bat' date=' it's about batting skills.[/quote'] It does make a big difference. Why do you think players such as Sangakarra in Tests or an ABDV in LOIs gave up their keeping for the sake of their batting?
CG Posted February 11, 2013 Posted February 11, 2013 Why not just look at their test records? Dk has played against some tough attacks be it aussie attacks in 2004 or sa attack.He opened in sa and eng .Also dk has played 23 tests till now.mostly being stop start .
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