Rohit S. Ambani Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 Gujarat a "Hindu state" by 2015 VHP will declare Gujarat a "Hindu state" by 2015 besides having its presence in all 18,000 villages of the state in the next two years, the outfit's leader Pravin Togadia claimed today. "In two years, the VHP will have a presence in all 18,000 villages of Gujarat and by 2015, we will declare Gujarat a Hindu state," VHP's international working president Pravin Togadia told VHP followers who gathered here for a 'Hindu Sangam' event. The event was organised by the Vishwa Hindu Parishad to launch a new movement called 'Hindu Ahead, for Hindu Security and Prosperity', which aims to reach out to Hindus in villages, towns, cities and tribal areas. Invoking the issue of the "insecure Hindu", Togadia said, "To protect and prosper, Hindus themselves have to gear up, by becoming true practicing Hindus, aware Hindus and active Hindus". The absence of Narendra Modi at the function was conspicuous though the VHP organised the event in the area which falls in the Gujarat Chief Minister's constituency. In the past, the Gujarat VHP has been at loggerheads with Modi over a range of issues including demolition of illegal temples in Gandhinagar and Ahmedabad. The VHP, through its 'Hindu Sangam' announced plans for the resurrection of the organisation, which would celebrate 50 years of its inception in 2014. Raising the issue of Ram Mandir, Togadia said, "Unless and until we will become Hindus, not only by our behaviour, but with our practice and awareness, only then will our dream of building Ram Mandir at Ayodhya be fulfilled." VHP's joint organisational secretary Vinayakrao Deshpande talked about dwindling support for the outfit in Gujarat. He mentioned that 10 years ago there were more than 10,000 committees in the state which has come down to 6,000 at present. Geeta should be mandatory in all schools in India, TV Channels should be forced to telecast Ramayan and Mahabharta. India is fast adopting Americanized pop culture, we need to curb that! Pankaj888 1
Raghav_12 Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 VHP declaring Gujrat hindu state. What does that even mean? Don't they already consider India a hindu state?
Sachin=GOD Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 It seems he hasn't realized that Modi has made RSS and VHP inconsequential in Gujarat.
FischerTal Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 It seems he hasn't realized that Modi has made RSS and VHP inconsequential in Gujarat. :agree:
Muloghonto Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 This is good news. Disagree. This is terrible news. Ideologically, a 'hindu state' is just about as nonsensical and flawed a concept as a Sharia state. A definite step backwards for Gujrat but then again, the Rashtriya SchutzStaffel is all about aping the Islamists and passing it off as hinduism by simply saffronizing Islam.
FischerTal Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 Disagree. This is terrible news. Ideologically, a 'hindu state' is just about as nonsensical and flawed a concept as a Sharia state. A definite step backwards for Gujrat but then again, the Rashtriya SchutzStaffel is all about aping the Islamists and passing it off as hinduism by simply saffronizing Islam. troll, ever heard of Rashtriya Muslim Manch, the muslim affiliate of RSS?
Muloghonto Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 troll' date=' ever heard of Rashtriya Muslim Manch, the muslim affiliate of RSS?[/quote'] Yes. It doesnt add or subtract whatsoever from what i said. The Rashtriya Schutz Staffel is an evil organization of backwardness, who simply wish to impose their hocus pocus theological beleifs as facts onto a secular Indian society, which is nothing more than Saffronized Islam.
FischerTal Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 Yes. It doesnt add or subtract whatsoever from what i said. The Rashtriya Schutz Staffel is an evil organization of backwardness, who simply wish to impose their hocus pocus theological beleifs as facts onto a secular Indian society, which is nothing more than Saffronized Islam. preaching to your own choir. secular bigots can keep their ideals unto themselves and not impose them on hindus in india. your nonacknowledgement of RMM just shows that you are not ready to accept that not all muslims believe in the secular bakwaas you spout on others. BJP-led municipal corporations in Gujarat came to power with winning in predominantly muslim areas. First learn to acknowledge the good work RSS has done and read what happened to sudipto gupta in secular West Bengal.
Desi Cartman Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 I declare Meghalya as a Muslim state today :finger: What does it even mean unless there are changes in the constitution and rights are taken away from the minorities
Muloghonto Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 preaching to your own choir. secular bigots can keep their ideals unto themselves and not impose them on hindus in india. We are imposing nothing on anyone- the very definition of secularism is the seperation of church and state. You being Hindu or Muslim or whatever else is irrelevant to the laws of the land- that is the fundamental tenet of secularism. If you wish to believe in hocus pocus nonsense, do it behind closed doors, i have no reason why i should be impeded or affected by your fairy tales of nonsense. You dont want to go to work because this happens to be the birthday of a fictitious 'god avatar' ? Well fine, stay home and hope your boss doesnt fire you but i see no reason why I have to miss out on work because of your hocus pocus beleifs. Also, i refuse to accept the Saffronized Islamic entity known as the RSS and its mother institution, VHP masqurading as 'Hindu' to be Hindu. They are nothing more than copycats of Islam and as far from the tents of Hinduism as i can imagine. your nonacknowledgement of RMM just shows that you are not ready to accept that not all muslims believe in the secular bakwaas you spout on others. The majority of muslims do not accept secularism because they are either adherent or wishers of Sharia law. I dont think there is anyone here dumb enough to argue that muslims are by and large secularists. They are not. BJP-led municipal corporations in Gujarat came to power with winning in predominantly muslim areas. First learn to acknowledge the good work RSS has done and read what happened to sudipto gupta in secular West Bengal. Terming the work done by RSS as 'good work' is like terming the work done by the far right Nazi youth groups as 'good work', terming the work of Darul Uloom as 'good work', the work of catholics who trade 'food for conversion' to starving kids as 'good work'. All RSS is, is a propaganda machine that engages in charity, like other propaganda machines (Catholic church, Protestant groups, Darul Oloom,etc) with the objective of spreading hocus pocus garbage under the guise of charity.
FischerTal Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 I declare Meghalya as a Muslim state today :finger: What does it even mean unless there are changes in the constitution and rights are taken away from the minorities its all fear mongering by the media to showcase Gujarat and especially guj hindus as some crazy nazis. The fact is Modi has wiped out the VHP from Gujarat. Togadia hates Modi
FischerTal Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 Terming the work done by RSS as 'good work' is like terming the work done by the far right Nazi youth groups as 'good work', terming the work of Darul Uloom as 'good work', the work of catholics who trade 'food for conversion' to starving kids as 'good work'. All RSS is, is a propaganda machine that engages in charity, like other propaganda machines (Catholic church, Protestant groups, Darul Oloom,etc) with the objective of spreading hocus pocus garbage under the guise of charity. Atheists should not forget that their kind have been responsible for some of the worst crimes in the 20th century. Remember Mao, Stalin, Pol pot and Naxalites? Supposedly rational minds that were free of religious "prejudices" killed their own people like flies.
Muloghonto Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 ] Terming the work done by RSS as 'good work' is like terming the work done by the far right Nazi youth groups as 'good work', terming the work of Darul Uloom as 'good work', the work of catholics who trade 'food for conversion' to starving kids as 'good work'. All RSS is, is a propaganda machine that engages in charity, like other propaganda machines (Catholic church, Protestant groups, Darul Oloom,etc) with the objective of spreading hocus pocus garbage under the guise of charity. Atheists should not forget that their kind have been responsible for some of the worst crimes in the 20th century. Remember Mao, Stalin, Pol pot? Secularists are not atheists. Some of the most influential secularists were also religious. We are just smart enough and tolerant enough to realize that our assumptive beleifs should not dictate to society and influence the lives of others. PS: I am not an atheist, i am an agnost. Atheist is one who believes God/Gods do not exist. I could care less if they do or do not exist. They can all go collectively stuff themselves for all i care.
FischerTal Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 Secularists are not atheists. Some of the most influential secularists were also religious. We are just smart enough and tolerant enough to realize that our assumptive beleifs should not dictate to society and influence the lives of others. PS: I am not an atheist, i am an agnost. Atheist is one who believes God/Gods do not exist. I could care less if they do or do not exist. They can all go collectively stuff themselves for all i care. BJP was in power for 6 years. Do religious minorities still exist today? Yes. Unlike the fear mongering of secularists, BJP worked for the welfare of all Indians
FischerTal Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 Secularists are not atheists. Some of the most influential secularists were also religious. We are just smart enough and tolerant enough to realize that our assumptive beleifs should not dictate to society and influence the lives of others. PS: I am not an atheist, i am an agnost. Atheist is one who believes God/Gods do not exist. I could care less if they do or do not exist. They can all go collectively stuff themselves for all i care. you may not care but that doesnt mean that your attitude should reflect the attitude of policymakers. otherwise, how are you different from the people you criticize to be imposing their beliefs on another.
FischerTal Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 Secularists are not atheists. Some of the most influential secularists were also religious. We are just smart enough and tolerant enough to realize that our assumptive beleifs should not dictate to society and influence the lives of others. PS: I am not an atheist, i am an agnost. Atheist is one who believes God/Gods do not exist. I could care less if they do or do not exist. They can all go collectively for all i care. thats the attitude of an atheist, one who believes god doesnt exist and finds it necessary to demean those who do have faith.
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