Dhoni choked on the spicy Madraasi Sambhar yet again....laugh aloud

[Sidhoni]

ok guys what we learned dhoni's inning was better than pollard bcos he himself sent people who could not bat before him. also bcos he did not finish match bcos for some reason he did not got strike..(but on 2nd ball of over he did ) also dhoni's inning in 2011 proves he did not felt pressure yesterday.. i guess sachin's innings in 90's prove he is still world's best batsman today..

Whatever makes you happy. I said nothing what you have written above.

did u see he got strike on 2nd ball of over? in 17th over?

One ball?

[littlemaster1982]

My point was Dhoni doesn't feel any pressure and can pull off things like that.

Dhoni feels pressure, but he does hide it well, by his own admission. He can hit sixes at will, but no one can back himself to score 60-70 runs in last five overs of chasing when you have only tailenders to follow.

So? They can still bat no?

They were tailenders so you can't take the risk of trusting them to rotate the strike and get some big hits on their own.

So you think it was a choke?

I agree it's not a choke. Choke is when you are in a position to win the match but fail to cross the finishing line. You guys were never in the chase in the first place :hehe:

[Sidhoni]

Dhoni feels pressure, but he does hide it well, by his own admission. He can hit sixes at will, but no one can back himself to score 60-70 runs in last five overs of chasing when you have only tailenders to follow. They were tailenders so you can't take the risk of trusting them to rotate the strike and get some big hits on their own. I agree it's not a choke. Choke is when you are in a position to win the match but fail to cross the finishing line. You guys were never in the chase in the first place :hehe:

Agreed. But he might have still got closer had he got enough strike. But anyway that was a herculean task. All 3 of them are capable batsmen. You are saying Morkel can't be trusted to hit big shots? Fair enough.

[bulbul]

One ball?

who asked him to take single of that ball? he should have refused single and hit sixes in next 3 balls :dontknow:

[littlemaster1982]

Agreed. But he might have still got closer had he got enough strike. But anyway that was a herculean task.

He could have easily won the match if he had come at 5. He didn't and thus lost the match. His innings was not even a fighting one if you look at it objectively.

All 3 of them are capable batsmen. You are saying Morkel can't be trusted to hit big shots?

Only Morkel was capable of big hits. Ashwin/Morris can neither hit big nor rotate the strike ably.

[Raghav_12]

:hysterical: He can handle WC final pressure, but he can't handle IPL final pressure Did he get enough strike to do anything in 17th and 18th. Match was already over when 19th over came with 50 required of 12

This is some lahori logic. what next? Sreesanth played with so much passion in Johanesbourg. So why he would not play IPL with full passion?

[adi B]

hope he doesnt hide behind the other batsmen in CT :hehe:

[asterix]

hope he doesnt hide behind the other batsmen in CT :hehe:

That's the real woryy as matches won't be played on patta wickets where he thrives and acts like a hero...

[Sidhoni]

He could have easily won the match if he had come at 5. He didn't and thus lost the match. His innings was not even a fighting one if you look at it objectively. Only Morkel was capable of big hits. Ashwin/Morris can neither hit big nor rotate the strike ably.

Easily? Not really with the way other batsmen played. His innings was definitely a fighting knock, took from 58-8 to needing 56 from 24. That was the only point we had the slightest of chance. Both Ashwin and Morris have FC hundreds, they can surely bat.

This is some lahori logic. what next? Sreesanth played with so much passion in Johanesbourg. So why he would not play IPL with full passion?

My point was that Dhoni doesn't let pressure get to him. That knock was just an example.

That's the real woryy as matches won't be played on patta wickets where he thrives and acts like a hero...

He was Man of the Series in the ODI series in England :finger:

[littlemaster1982]

Easily? Not really with the way other batsmen played. His innings was definitely a fighting knock' date=' took from 58-8 to needing 56 from 24. That was the only point we had the slightest of chance.[/quote'] A fighting knock is something which gives the chasing team a reasonable chance. CSK was never in the chase throughout the innings. It did look like Dhoni can do it, but that's about it. They can bat, but not in a situation like yesterday.

[Sidhoni]

A fighting knock is something which gives the chasing team a reasonable chance. CSK was never in the chase throughout the innings. It did look like Dhoni can do it, but that's about it. They can bat, but not in a situation like yesterday.

But he did fight there till the end no? Despite that many wickets falling, to lose by only 20 odd runs was a good effort. They could have at least given the strike and not gone for big shots themselves.

[Raghav_12]

But he did fight there till the end no? Despite that many wickets falling, to lose by only 20 odd runs was a good effort. They could have at least given the strike and not gone for big shots themselves.

In my perception, he always threatened to fight but never fought. In last few overs he was letting strike go rather easily by taking a single or after hitting a six he was playing defensive. Also he couldn't hit big shots to Malinga.

[Sidhoni]

In my perception' date=' he always threatened to fight but never fought. In last few overs he was letting strike go rather easily by taking a single or after hitting a six he was playing defensive. Also he couldn't hit big shots to Malinga.[/quote'] He did refuse many singles in order to keep strike but it was a herculean task to win the match. He faced Malinga in the 19th over IIRC and till then game was nearly over as we required 50 from 12.

[bulbul]

Ultimately Dhoni choked.

[Raghav_12]

He did refuse many singles in order to keep strike but it was a herculean task to win the match. He faced Malinga in the 19th over IIRC and till then game was nearly over as we required 50 from 12.

I know it was hurculean task but shots didn't come off Dhoni's bat as they used to in such situations. Probably there wasn't a single over where he hit some 15+ runs. If you take last two overs out, when match was as good as over, his overall score and strike would also not look good at all. Going into 19th over, his score was 40 off 33, a strike rate of 121 and you yourself declare that match was as good as over going into 19th over. So, Dhoni did anything only when match was over other than that it was damp squib.

[Crookbond]

I know it was hurculean task but shots didn't come off Dhoni's bat as they used to in such situations. Probably there wasn't a single over where he hit some 15+ runs. If you take last two overs out' date=' when match was as good as over, his overall score and strike would also not look good at all.[b'] Going into 19th over, his score was 40 off 33, a strike rate of 121 and you yourself declare that match was as good as over going into 19th over. So, Dhoni did anything only when match was over other than that it was damp squib.

The only other player who got more than 40 in the final was Keiron Pollard (and with a better SR), surely nothing but damp squib by Dhoni.

[bulbul]

The only other player who got more than 40 in the final was Keiron Pollard' date=' surely nothing but damp squib by Dhoni.[/quote'] But how they crossed 40 also matters,if i am not wrong.

[Yoda-esque]

MSD is a match winner.Period.

[Sidhoni]

I know it was hurculean task but shots didn't come off Dhoni's bat as they used to in such situations. Probably there wasn't a single over where he hit some 15+ runs. If you take last two overs out' date=' when match was as good as over, his overall score and strike would also not look good at all. Going into 19th over, his score was 40 off 33, a strike rate of 121 and you yourself declare that match was as good as over going into 19th over. So, Dhoni did anything only when match was over other than that it was damp squib.[/quote'] Because he always waits before going full throttle. He didn't even get much strike in 17th and 18th, in an ideal situation you would want him to face at least 8-10 balls in those 2 overs. Yes he didn't hit well with one or two, but if he had 8-10 balls he surely would have connected a few to bring CSK closer. PS : Do you believe that it is a choke?

[CSK Fan]

Because he always waits before going full throttle. He didn't even get much strike in 17th and 18th, in an ideal situation you would want him to face at least 8-10 balls in those 2 overs. Yes he didn't hit well with one or two, but if he had 8-10 balls he surely would have connected a few to bring CSK closer. PS : Do you believe that it is a choke?

He is lucky no 9, 10 and 11 lasted so many balls, let alone complain about getting strike. Its his fault he had to bat with tailenders who couldnt give him strike