yoda Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Better than people who support criminals because of community ' date=' place etc. :(([/quote'] Dude, Meiyappan gets bail for a bailable offense and you got your pants all twisted and you went into mourning for days cause he got bail. If he is a criminal, it will be proven in a court of law and he will go to jail as he should. Till then you need to have the decency to allow them to have their rights under the law.
indiefan Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Will take STRICT action on Kundra if needed: BCCI Would be farcical if they take action against RR, but not CSK.
yoda Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 ^Well Kundra has a well stated stake/% ownership in RR. Meiyappan's ownership status with CSK is still questionable.
Crookbond Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Yoda, FFS please once just understand a point. Even if Meyappam is NOT the owner of CSK betting is illegal. Next, he's had access to team dugouts etc. which ONLY team management can give i.e. people who HAVE stakes in CSK. So please stop throwing red herrings.
Malcolm Merlyn Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 These CSK fans are really irritating. Sent from my GT-I9103 using Tapatalk 2
Swing_n_Speed Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Yoda' date=' FFS please once just understand a point. Even if Meyappam is NOT the owner of CSK betting is illegal. Next, he's had access to team dugouts etc. which ONLY team management can give i.e. people who HAVE stakes in CSK. So please stop throwing red herrings.[/quote'] Team dugouts? Not sure about that. From his VIP pass it's pretty clear it's an all access pass except for the dressing rooms. So that would include team dugouts too.
Crookbond Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Team dugouts? Not sure about that. From his VIP pass it's pretty clear it's an all access pass except for the dressing rooms. So that would include team dugouts too. You say you are not sure of team dug out access and in the end you say he had dug out access.
Swing_n_Speed Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 You say you are not sure of team dug out access and in the end you say he had dug out access. :poink: I meant: 'No access' to dressing rooms would also extend to the dugouts!
Crookbond Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 :poink: I meant: 'No access' to dressing rooms would also extend to the dugouts! OK! But hope you get my point on Meyappam.
Swing_n_Speed Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 OK! But hope you get my point on Meyappam. Not sure dude. Cops need to establish that before the teams were announced owners had access to info. I'm assuming here: that once teams are announced, players are barricaded off, phones taken away and confined along-with coaching staff to dressing rooms! Again pure speculation. Your point about team owners is totally valid though, it does seem obvious that team management would have some inside info. So if they were betting they would use that to their advantage. Which is definitely illegal. But in terms of proving it in court I don't think it's all that black n white.
South_Paw Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 OK! But hope you get my point on Meyappam. I guess everyone gets the point. Meiyappan will be punished and if 100% justice is to be served, CSK shoyuld be scrapped off. But the point is for now, atleast CSK are able to show off that Meiyappan is not connected to management in anyway. Though everyone know thats not the case, we still dont know if India Cements can produce evidence to make the judicial system accept its claim about Meiyappans stature in CSK. But in case of Kundra, its it seems his involvement with the team in beyond denial. Or RR is incapabale of making the denial (Now guys dont jump on and say RR is so honet. They are just incapable or unable to change the facts regarding the ownership) If you want CSK to be scrapped on moral grounds even if Meiyappan's involvement in Tem amgmt. can't be proved, on the same Moral gound's how can an organisation be brought down since its CEO is involved in illegal activities?
bulbul Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 ^atleast RR not saying Kundra is not a owner unlike CSK,which tried to fool entire country.
I6MTW Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 So now Raj Kundra is also getting arrested? I think then Shilpa will also be arrested. SRK should also be investigated.
Crookbond Posted June 6, 2013 Posted June 6, 2013 Not sure dude. Cops need to establish that before the teams were announced owners had access to info. I'm assuming here: that once teams are announced, players are barricaded off, phones taken away and confined along-with coaching staff to dressing rooms! Again pure speculation. Your point about team owners is totally valid though, it does seem obvious that team management would have some inside info. So if they were betting they would use that to their advantage. Which is definitely illegal. But in terms of proving it in court I don't think it's all that black n white. I guess everyone gets the point. Meiyappan will be punished and if 100% justice is to be served, CSK shoyuld be scrapped off. But the point is for now, atleast CSK are able to show off that Meiyappan is not connected to management in anyway. Though everyone know thats not the case, we still dont know if India Cements can produce evidence to make the judicial system accept its claim about Meiyappans stature in CSK. But in case of Kundra, its it seems his involvement with the team in beyond denial. Or RR is incapabale of making the denial (Now guys dont jump on and say RR is so honet. They are just incapable or unable to change the facts regarding the ownership) If you want CSK to be scrapped on moral grounds even if Meiyappan's involvement in Tem amgmt. can't be proved, on the same Moral gound's how can an organisation be brought down since its CEO is involved in illegal activities? Let me try to make this a bit more clear here. Lets assume that Meiyappan is just an "enthusiast" (contrary to all other evidence). Now, he got access to certain team areas including the ground etc. I want to know who the phuck gave him that access and want that MoFo tracked upon, hunted and pay for his actions. The very fact of allowing Meiyappan access to such areas which can be potentially used is an error. Everyone is responsible for his or her actions.
yoda Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 DM, no one is saying Meiyappan shouldn't be punished. That is up to the courts and lawyers. I am only talking about the specific IPL clause which says a franchise can be terminated if an OWNER did xyz. Are you saying that clause applies to CSK simply because Meiyappan had an all access pass? If he had no DIRECT ownership in CSK or majority ownership in any company which owns CSK and is just an employee or an enthusiast, I am not sure that clause should apply to him. Even in case of Kundra, it is absurd IMO to terminate a franchise just because of the actions of one individual. What about the fans of RR? It makes more sense to force him to sell his share and get the hell out of the IPL instead of destroying the franchise and asking fans to start supporting a totally new team with no continuity.
yoda Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 ^atleast RR not saying Kundra is not a owner unlike CSK' date='which tried to fool entire country.[/quote'] Well he is not an owner, what do you want them to do? Lie just to please you? :giggle:
bulbul Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Well he is not an owner' date=' what do you want them to do? Lie just to please you? :giggle:[/quote'] Till the betting scandal broke no one claimed he is not owner :omg:
indiefan Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Meiyappan was in the mail sent by Shukla to the owners of the franchises. What additional proof is required? Srini keeps shouting that he is not an owner whereas he was till few weeks back.
Raghav_12 Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 I think even Srini wouldn't have thought that so many people will buy his theory of Meiyappan not being an owner/CEO of CSK. But hail CSK fans of this forum. Their unflinching support to corrupt owners of CSK points towards fundamental problems that India as a nation face.
asterix Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 If RR gets suspended and CSK manages to stay then I could see court cases coming up against BCCI pretty soon....BCCI will have to do lots of explaining... Srini will personally not like RR to get suspended else the focus will certainly be on CSK...
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