kubrickian Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 hat-trick. Of fours hit by Morgan in his over. Link to comment
indiaregulator Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Slickr would chose Sreesanth over any England test bowler if a direct comparison was made. Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Slickr would chose Sreesanth over any England test bowler if a direct comparison was made. Hysterical. @Topic- McKay is ahead of Finn and his stats and consistency are there to back it up. Link to comment
indiaregulator Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Hysterical. @Topic- McKay is ahead of Finn and his stats and consistency are there to back it up. http://www.espncricinfo.com/rankings/content/page/211270.html Finn is ranked 4th and the highest ranking ODI quick. Mckay is ranked 7th. Also, lets do a bet. ALL IN in terms of ICF credit that in 2 years time, Finn will be universally accepted as being a better test, ODI and T20 bowler than McKay. Link to comment
Crookbond Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 http://www.espncricinfo.com/rankings/content/page/211270.html Finn is ranked 4th and the highest ranking ODI quick. Mckay is ranked 7th. Also, lets do a bet. ALL IN in terms of ICF credit that in 2 years time, Finn will be universally accepted as being a better test, ODI and T20 bowler than McKay. If you want to play the rankings, play this - Ashwin is ranked 3rd as Test all rounder and Broad is ranked 5th. Pujara is ranked 7th, Bell is 9th and Cook is 10th in the Test batsmen rankings. Ashwin > Broad, Pujara > Bell, Cook Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 /\ :giggle: http://www.espncricinfo.com/rankings/content/page/211270.html Finn is ranked 4th and the highest ranking ODI quick. Mckay is ranked 7th. Also, lets do a bet. ALL IN in terms of ICF credit that in 2 years time, Finn will be universally accepted as being a better test, ODI and T20 bowler than McKay. Stats > Ranking. I have no doubt about Finn fairing better than McKay in Test but in ODIs he is by all means ahead of Finn. Finn's barely consistent in ODIs. Link to comment
indiaregulator Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 If you want to play the rankings, play this - Ashwin is ranked 3rd as Test all rounder and Broad is ranked 5th. Pujara is ranked 7th, Bell is 9th and Cook is 10th in the Test batsmen rankings. Ashwin > Broad, Pujara > Bell, Cook Mckay and finn had around the same starting point and have played similar games. Ashwin and Pujara have clearly not. Link to comment
moniker Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 ^ Player rankings are based on performance over a specific period, not overall career. Link to comment
Crookbond Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Mckay and finn had around the same starting point and have played similar games. Ashwin and Pujara have clearly not. ^ Player rankings are based on performance over a specific period' date=' not overall career.[/quote'] He will come up with some new Najafgarh logic. Link to comment
indiaregulator Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 ^ Player rankings are based on performance over a specific period' date=' not overall career.[/quote'] Exactly. Finn and Mckay both went into the ODI rankings at around the same time, they've played similar games and the starting point. This means that the rankings represent their entire careers. Ashwin has been in the rankings what, a few years? Pujara the same. Cook and Broad have been there for over half a decade. Link to comment
Old guy Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Exactly. Finn and Mckay both went into the ODI rankings at around the same time, they've played similar games and the starting point. This means that the rankings represent their entire careers. Ashwin has been in the rankings what, a few years? Pujara the same. Cook and Broad have been there for over half a decade. Reading comprehension :fail: Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment
indiaregulator Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Reading comprehension :fail: Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Nope, Rankings dont take into consideration anything from beyond the two year mark. Finn and Mckay basically been properly introduced into the team from around 2 years ago, so these rankings pretty much are representative of their whole careers. Ashwin's ranking show's he is in better form than say Broad but if you take Broad's entire career into retrospect the stats will be different. Link to comment
Old guy Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Nope' date=' [b']Rankings dont take into consideration anything from beyond the two year mark. Finn and Mckay basically been properly introduced into the team from around 2 years ago, so these rankings pretty much are representative of their whole careers. Ashwin's ranking show's he is in better form than say Broad but if you take Broad's entire career into retrospect the stats will be different. Exactly. Finn and Mckay both went into the ODI rankings at around the same time, they've played similar games and the starting point. This means that the rankings represent their entire careers. Ashwin has been in the rankings what, a few years? Pujara the same. Cook and Broad have been there for over half a decade. ok now tell me how its unfair to compare rankings .. Link to comment
indiaregulator Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 It's unfair to compare someone in the rankings who started their careers at completely different points and played a completely different amount of matches. It's completely fair to compare two people who have played similar number of matches in their careers and started off going in the rankings at around the same point. Link to comment
Crookbond Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 It's unfair to compare someone in the rankings who started their careers at completely different points and played a completely different amount of matches. It's completely fair to compare two people who have played similar number of matches in their careers and started off going in the rankings at around the same point. :facepalm: Rankings consider the same period for all players and they are normalized by the number of matches one has played. You can't compare those rankings selectively to suit your prejudiced opinion. I think you understand that but you're trying to clutch straws here. Link to comment
indiaregulator Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 :facepalm: Rankings consider the same period for all players and they are normalized by the number of matches one has played. You can't compare those rankings selectively to suit your prejudiced opinion. I think you understand that but you're trying to clutch straws here. Over their careers? No it isn't. I'll put it with a direct example. Finn and McKay played the same number of games in the past two years. In these past two years finn has performed better than McKay has. If both these players had been playing for longer, this wouldn't be representative. But it is representative because McKay and Finn have only really started featuring around 2 years ago, meaning the rankings encompass everything they have acheived so far in ODI cricket. Link to comment
Crookbond Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Over their careers? No it isn't. I'll put it with a direct example. Finn and McKay played the same number of games in the past two years. In these past two years finn has performed better than McKay has. If both these players had been playing for longer, this wouldn't be representative. But it is representative because McKay and Finn have only really started featuring around 2 years ago, meaning the rankings encompass everything they have acheived so far in ODI cricket. Read what 'moniker' said. Link to comment
indiaregulator Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Read what 'moniker' said. Yes exactly, the rankings only take consideration games from 2 years back. Mckay and Finn have only started featuring for their respective teams from around 2 years back...therefore the rankings encompass everything. Link to comment
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