Symonds puzzled by the "over the top Indian celebrations"

[sachin_fan]

Actually, that is quite obscene from and in a country where there is so much poverty. Hopefully, some of the players either refused this insult or donated their share to charity.

high hopes, not gonna happen. And i agree, its very very obsence...filthy...

[Mr. Wicket]

Hopefully' date=' some of the players either refused this insult or donated their share to charity.[/quote'] If they refused it, it probably would go into the BCCI honchos' pockets. What's also disappointing is the way this money's being thrown around for a T20 win - yet the players who did so well in the test series (and the specialists there like Jaffer, Kumble, VVS and co.) aren't seeing a dime like this.

[The Outsider]

Actually, that is quite obscene from and in a country where there is so much poverty. Hopefully, some of the players either refused this insult or donated their share to charity.

Without trying to downgrade the noble intentions of your post, I want to point out that most members of the current Indian team came from distinctly lower middle class background (by Indian standards) where they have seen if not experienced a lot of poverty themselves and I am sure they will follow the footsteps of great cricketers of the previous generation like Tendulkar, Dravid, Ganguly in donating handsome amounts to charity.

[kumble_rocks]

It was OTT . But don't like to hear it from crybabies like Symond.

[The Outsider]

Donny, just out of curiousity how much of their earnings have the Aussie cricketers donated for the betterment and upliftment of the Aboriginals? PS : Meant purely as an inquisitive question.

[Donny]

I've no idea, shwetabh. I am not a spokesman for the Aussie cricket players. By the way, I was not commenting on the Indian players' earnings. They are high profile, highly skilled sportsmen who deserve to be on a good wage. My comment was about the 'bonuses'.

[The Outsider]

I've no idea' date=' shwetabh. I am not a spokesman for the Aussie cricket players.[/quote'] Cool. Thought you might have an idea.

[Ram]

Actually, that is quite obscene from and in a country where there is so much poverty. Hopefully, some of the players either refused this insult or donated their share to charity.

Nobody should fault the players for taking the award. Why should the deny it in the first place ? Athletes like Tiger Woods, Michael Schumacher and Jordan earned millions of dollars in endorsements through their career. Did anybody walk up to them and say , " There is lot of poverty in Africa, please donate half of your wealth to charity" ? The players are benefiting from the system. The only problem is , the system itself is wrong. Be it tennis players, cricketers , golfers or movie stars , none of them should get the astronomical pay checks they pocket , considering the billions of people in this world living in abject poverty. Unfortunately , that is how the world works. It is really not fair to say - " Hopefully, some of the players either refused this insult or donated their share to charity."

[Donny]

Who are you to say my comment is 'not fair' ? It's a valid opinion. None the less valid by your fanciful comparison to Woods and others.

[Ram]

Who are you to say my comment is 'not fair' ? It's a valid opinion.

Who am i to say your comment is not proper ? What kind of reaction is that ? I dont need to be anyone to express my opinion on your reaction. This is a message board. People often express their opinion on what others have to say about anything. I find the "Who are you.." statement particularly offensive and not in keeping with decent debating traditions.

None the less valid by your fanciful comparison to Woods and others.

How would the comparison with Woods , Schumacher be fanciful ? Would like to know.

[Dhondy]

Actually, that is quite obscene from and in a country where there is so much poverty. Hopefully, some of the players either refused this insult or donated their share to charity.

None of your concern, Donny. Keep to your side of the fence, willya?

[The Outsider]

None of your concern' date=' Donny. Keep to your side of the fence, willya?[/quote'] Dhondy, Donny is obviously concerned about the poverty in India since he is not, "a spokesman for the Aussie cricket players" and has no idea about their contribution towards the plight of the aboriginals in a country where there is very little poverty and yet discrimination on the basis of race was removed officially only a few years back.

[Donny]

My side of the fence ? When I joined this site, I inquired about what was acceptable, as I respected it is an Indian fansite. I was told to express my opinions and they'd be welcome.

[Mr. Wicket]

What's also disappointing is the way this money's being thrown around for a T20 win - yet the players who did so well in the test series (and the specialists there like Jaffer' date=' Kumble, VVS and co.) aren't seeing a dime like this.[/quote'] BTW... does anyone know if there was any kind of recognition/award for the test players as well after their EXCELLENT showing in England? Hope there was... that was a far tougher tour and the discipline and effort that some of the players not involved here (Jaffer, Karthik, Tendulkar, Ganguly, Zaheer, etc) was quite outstanding... probably more deserving of a reward than half the T20 side IMO.

[The Outsider]

Donny, your concern on India and poverty in the country is truly appreciated. For people like me who have never visited Australia, can you give some information on the plight the aboriginals have faced in the past and are facing today to keep abreast with the rapidly growing Australia?

[Donny]

Dhondy' date=' Donny is obviously concerned about the poverty in India since he is not, "a spokesman for the Aussie cricket players" and has no idea about their contribution towards the plight of the aboriginals in a country where there is very little poverty and yet discrimination on the basis of race was removed officially only a few years back.[/quote'] I am concerned about poverty everywhere. Why the need for such pettiness ? I recently read where two captains (Dhoni and Malik I think) donated the match prizemoney to charity and was very happy to hear it.

[zubinpepsi]

TOI has a more theaterical version Shaken, stirred Symonds starts the war of words TNN / Joseph Hoover BANGALORE, September 27: Andrew Symonds. The very name has often sent shudders down the spine. For Symonds has the uncanny knack of spoiling Indian parties by either blasting a quick-fire fifty or bringing off an outstanding catch or run-out. And, as records indicate, he has done pretty well against India since his first hit against them as county cricketer at Gloucestershire in 1996. This bloke is capable of chancing his arm against all odds, as he did when he swam 45 minutes in shark-infested waters when the boat he was in with Matthew Hayden and another friend capsized in Morten Bay in 1999. The Queensland warrior also has the reputation of killing wild pigs with a dagger. He is a huge bloke, as the sixes he swats deep into the stands prove. Though Ricky Ponting did not say so in as many words, the robust all-rounder, who can bowl off-spin and gentle medium pace, has declared war against MS Dhoni's team. :eyedance: The war of words hotted up on Thursday with Robin Uthappa dismissing Ponting's statement that "the T20 triumph is in the past" with a "if that's history, what Australians have done so far is also history. We are going to fight fire with fire." :finger: Sreesanth added fuel to the conflagration. "They say it is in the past. But it is something they can never change," he retorted. Interestingly, the Aussies had warned the Kerala speedster in Durban "that they have 20 matches ahead and that, by then, they would show who the master is." Now that the aggro-personified Symonds has joined the spicy chat room, it would be interesting to see how he goes about accomplishing his mission. And to send the message across to the Indians, Symmonds turned out with his boxing mitts at the nets on Thursday evening, training close to 20 minutes. He looked aggressive, if not as mean as Mike Tyson. :giggle: Symonds is peeved at the way the Indians behaved after they had trounced Australia in their ICC World T20 semi-final in Durban last week. "Something has been sparked inside of me, watching them carry on over the last few days. Watching how we celebrate and how they celebrate, I think we have been pretty humble. They have got far too carried away. It has definitely sparked passion inside of us," Symonds declared.:two_thumbs_up:

[Mr. Wicket]

Indeed Donny, a lot of the Indian players - Tendulkar, Dravid, Ganguly, Dhoni, etc - are very involved with charities, and for that matter a lot of other players from elsewhere are also involved - I remember reading that Andrew Symonds and Brett Lee were also involved with some of the childrens' charities in Kolkata. The only difference is that their work hasn't gotten the media recognition that SRW's has. Of course, there are a large number who can actually use that money... Wasim Jaffer, RP Singh, Munaf Patel, the Pathans, Rohit Sharma and a lot more all come from much lower-class backgrounds. As for the money Agarkar got... oh, if only that had been a golden handshake for a retirement...

[Donny]

Donny' date=' your concern on India and poverty in the country is truly appreciated. For people like me who have never visited Australia, can you give some information on the plight the aboriginals have faced in the past and are facing today to keep abreast with the rapidly growing Australia?[/quote'] The treatment of the true owners of Australia has been (and still is) disgraceful.

[Donny]

As for the money Agarkar got... oh' date=' if only that had been a golden handshake for a retirement...[/quote'] :regular_smile: