Swing_n_Speed Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Sea of humanity.... After the commonwealth games, when there was widespread claims of epic fraud, we should've marched like this. The MSM states that the Brazil protests are owing to rising costs in public transportation. Hard to believe! There is a lot more at play here. So if anyone follows Brazilian politics, if these protests turn into something major, do post here. wKqk4iaMHO8 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-22946736 On another note:- World over the youth are rising:- Turkey, Brazil, Iran saw record turnout for their elections....Interesting times these
Swing_n_Speed Posted June 18, 2013 Author Posted June 18, 2013 If Brazilians get this pissed about bus fares, I can imagine what they'd do if they had our government!!!
Crookbond Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 ^ Not really. Bus fares is the trigger. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/18/world/americas/thousands-gather-for-protests-in-brazils-largest-cities.html?_r=0 Protesters showed up by the thousands in Brazil’s largest cities on Monday night in a remarkable display of strength for an agitation that had begun with small protests against bus-fare increases, then evolved into a broader movement by groups and individuals irate over a range of issues including the country’s high cost of living and lavish new stadium projects.
hhunaeh Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Is it possible for social media like facebook and twitter to influence the scale of these protests by highlighting the protest news and pictures more prominently in people's timeline and twitter feed?
Crookbond Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Yes. Iran revolution was exactly that, same in Tunisia as well. In particular, Twitter plays a significant role. In any case, Twitter is more like a news outlet than social media.
hhunaeh Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 pretty scary when you consider the amount of hold a single country and its government have on these social media tools
Crookbond Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Actually, they don't - Internet pretty much wins. There are ways and smart people will get around.
hhunaeh Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 what about the masses? By controlling what's more visible/feels important and what is not, they can give direction to such protests and control its size. If they can get direct access to metadata, who's to say what else they control?
Sidhoni Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 ^ Not really. Bus fares is the trigger. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/18/world/americas/thousands-gather-for-protests-in-brazils-largest-cities.html?_r=0 Thanks. Lavish stadium projects? Does that mean this is going to affect FIFA 2014 WC?
cowboysfan Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 why didnt they protest when brazil was applying for the olympics and world cup?
punjabi_khota Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Cmon Brazilians, you have got the world's prettiest girls and awesome beaches. Shut up and go to the beach.
Crookbond Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 what about the masses? By controlling what's more visible/feels important and what is not' date=' they can give direction to such protests and control its size. If they can get direct access to metadata, who's to say what else they control?[/quote'] That's the point - you can't get access to entire metadata. Even if you do sifting through it is a pain in the *****. The more you try to control the Internet , the more uncontrollable it gets.
Swing_n_Speed Posted June 18, 2013 Author Posted June 18, 2013 All this only for bus fares? The trigger as Deter pointed out. I find that hard to buy, because these are not protests in a single city, these are protests taking place in every nook of Brazil. There is a lot at play here, but corruption does seem to be the underlying factor.
Swing_n_Speed Posted June 18, 2013 Author Posted June 18, 2013 what about the masses? By controlling what's more visible/feels important and what is not' date=' they can give direction to such protests and control its size. If they can get direct access to metadata, who's to say what else they control?[/quote'] You're spot on. Irrespective of weather they gain access to metadata or not, it's really a small cluster of websites which are always in the thick of things. Then again it's a lot like the news we get. International coverage is almost always Reuters,Bloomberg, BBC. Again a small cluster controlling all information the general public receives. Even India merely covers domestic issues independently. For all international coverage we still use western sources. So I agree we need alternatives. The narrative at times is open to 'hanky-panky' by unscrupulous governments. And that is indeed scary! We witnessed this first hand with Bahrain and Syria. The western media completely buried the Bahrani protests under the carpet, but highlighted even 'fake' and 'misleading' information concerning Syria.
hhunaeh Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 That's the point - you can't get access to entire metadata. Even if you do sifting through it is a pain in the *****. The more you try to control the Internet ' date=' the more uncontrollable it gets.[/quote'] The social media companies just have to give more weight to a certain number of stories/posts/shares (say a story from a major news organization on some atrocity)while calculating the display order. They don't have to sift through all the data don't they?
Crookbond Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 The social media companies just have to give more weight to a certain number of stories/posts/shares (say a story from a major news organization on some atrocity)while calculating the display order. They don't have to sift through all the data don't they? It is VERY difficult to filter the signal from the noise. On an average, there are billions of tweets on one particular topic/hashtag in an event. It is easier said than done. It's just too 'fuzzy'.
hhunaeh Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 It is VERY difficult to filter the signal from the noise. On an average' date=' there are billions of tweets on one particular topic/hashtag in an event. It is easier said than done. It's just too 'fuzzy'.[/quote'] You just have to set the ball rolling. You can filter them by posts which link to a particular urls(pic/video/story on a website).
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