Sean Bradley Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 India has to win with bonus point other wise pak go through Presuming that we win with a bonus point against Afghanistan, and Bangladesh wins today with a bonus point, but loses to Srilanka, there will be a two way tie between India and Pakistan, who goes through ? :hmmm: Link to comment
Asim Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Pakistan For them the equation is simple yet: beat Bangladesh and get to the finals with three wins. Pakistan can only be eliminated under the following scenarios, which on Bangladesh's current form look highly unlikely - (i) Bangladesh win both their remaining matches with bonus points and with ten points they go through to the final. (ii) Bangladesh win both their matches and get one bonus point against either of the teams. Then it will be a two-way tie on points with Pakistan, in which case Pakistan will be relegated. The rules of the tournament stipulate that a tie on points between two or more teams will be decided, first on the head-to-head record in the tournament, and then, if required, on the bonus points earned and then, if required, on NRR. So Pakistan will not make it to the final if it is a two-way tie between them and Bangladesh, irrespective of their NRRs. However, if India or Afghanistan also get a bonus point, then there will be a three-way tie between Pakistan, Bangladesh and India/Afghanistan, necessitating a qualification based on the highest NRR. Bangladesh They still have two matches left and like Pakistan, they can also qualify for the finals without depending on other results. For that though, they will have to win both their remaining games - against Pakistan and Sri Lanka - with bonus points. In the event that they win both their games but manage only one bonus point, they will go to the finals directly if no team gets a bonus point in the India-Afghanistan game. But in case one of the two does manage a bonus point, there will be a three-way tie, which then will be decided on NRRs. In a three-way tie situation though, it will help both Bangladesh and India if Bangladesh earn their bonus point against Pakistan. It will be an outright elimination for Bangladesh if they don't win against Pakistan or if they don't manage at least two wins and one bonus point. India The only chance of India qualifying is when there's a three-way tie with Pakistan and Bangladesh on points, head-to-head and bonus point. Bangladesh winning against Pakistan and losing against Sri Lanka will also not help them since it will be a two-way tie between India and Pakistan. India, having lost to Pakistan in the league match, will be relegated. Afghanistan Their qualifications scenarios mirror India's. They will have to beat India with a bonus point and hope for a three-way tie with Bangladesh and Pakistan. Their qualification is very unlikely though, given their NRR has taken a beating after heavy losses to Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Finally, here's a rough idea of how the margins of these results will affect the net run rates of the teams, for scores around 250. If Pakistan lose to Bangladesh by no more than a margin of 18 balls to spare or 16 runs, then their NRR will be higher than India's even if India were to beat Afghanistan by the minimum margin required to earn a bonus point. However, If India manage a bigger win, this will not be enough. If Bangladesh manage to beat Pakistan with a bonus point, Pakistan's NRR would be low enough to give Bangladesh and India a realistic chance of qualifying in case of a three-way tie. http://www.espncricinfo.com/asia-cup-2014/content/story/725053.html Link to comment
Magneto Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Who goes through if BD beat Pakistan' date=' India Beat Afg, and Sri beat Bangladesh ?[/quote'] If Sri beats BD, India and BD are out. Pak goes through. Link to comment
Asim Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 ^ btw much has already changed since above scenarios-article was writted (a long time... may be 3,4 hrs ago) Link to comment
Magneto Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Presuming that we win with a bonus point against Afghanistan' date=' and Bangladesh wins today with a bonus point, but loses to Srilanka, there will be a two way tie between India and Pakistan, who goes through ? :hmmm:[/quote'] Pak. Head-to-head result gets priority. Link to comment
Sean Bradley Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Pakistan For them the equation is simple yet: beat Bangladesh and get to the finals with three wins. Pakistan can only be eliminated under the following scenarios, which on Bangladesh's current form look highly unlikely - (i) Bangladesh win both their remaining matches with bonus points and with ten points they go through to the final. (ii) Bangladesh win both their matches and get one bonus point against either of the teams. Then it will be a two-way tie on points with Pakistan, in which case Pakistan will be relegated. The rules of the tournament stipulate that a tie on points between two or more teams will be decided, first on the head-to-head record in the tournament, and then, if required, on the bonus points earned and then, if required, on NRR. So Pakistan will not make it to the final if it is a two-way tie between them and Bangladesh, irrespective of their NRRs. However, if India or Afghanistan also get a bonus point, then there will be a three-way tie between Pakistan, Bangladesh and India/Afghanistan, necessitating a qualification based on the highest NRR. Bangladesh They still have two matches left and like Pakistan, they can also qualify for the finals without depending on other results. For that though, they will have to win both their remaining games - against Pakistan and Sri Lanka - with bonus points. In the event that they win both their games but manage only one bonus point, they will go to the finals directly if no team gets a bonus point in the India-Afghanistan game. But in case one of the two does manage a bonus point, there will be a three-way tie, which then will be decided on NRRs. In a three-way tie situation though, it will help both Bangladesh and India if Bangladesh earn their bonus point against Pakistan. It will be an outright elimination for Bangladesh if they don't win against Pakistan or if they don't manage at least two wins and one bonus point. India The only chance of India qualifying is when there's a three-way tie with Pakistan and Bangladesh on points, head-to-head and bonus point. Bangladesh winning against Pakistan and losing against Sri Lanka will also not help them since it will be a two-way tie between India and Pakistan. India, having lost to Pakistan in the league match, will be relegated. Afghanistan Their qualifications scenarios mirror India's. They will have to beat India with a bonus point and hope for a three-way tie with Bangladesh and Pakistan. Their qualification is very unlikely though, given their NRR has taken a beating after heavy losses to Pakistan and Sri Lanka. Finally, here's a rough idea of how the margins of these results will affect the net run rates of the teams, for scores around 250. If Pakistan lose to Bangladesh by no more than a margin of 18 balls to spare or 16 runs, then their NRR will be higher than India's even if India were to beat Afghanistan by the minimum margin required to earn a bonus point. However, If India manage a bigger win, this will not be enough. If Bangladesh manage to beat Pakistan with a bonus point, Pakistan's NRR would be low enough to give Bangladesh and India a realistic chance of qualifying in case of a three-way tie. http://www.espncricinfo.com/asia-cup-2014/content/story/725053.html I dont see bangladesh beating Srilanka to be honest, just got hammered by the lankans, so even if Bangladesh pulls out a spectacular win against Pakistan today, India are out. Link to comment
Asim Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 :hysterical: yar yeh wala kam to ab mainey b chor dia hey Link to comment
Old guy Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I dont see bangladesh beating Srilanka to be honest' date=' just got hammered by the lankans, so even if Bangladesh pulls out a spectacular win against Pakistan today, India are out.[/quote'] But that way Bangladesh will get into final :giggle: 2 wins with bonus point will get them to finals no ? Link to comment
skindia Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Afridi again dangerman if he is promoted Link to comment
Magneto Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 But that way Bangladesh will get into final :giggle: 2 wins with bonus point will get them to finals no ? If BD wins with a bonus point today and beats SL without a bonus point in the next match, then all three teams will be tied at 9. NRR will decide it then. Link to comment
Sean Bradley Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 But that way Bangladesh will get into final :giggle: 2 wins with bonus point will get them to finals no ? Either way, it is pakistan or bangladesh that would make it to the finals, if not for kardik's misstumping of sanga :mad:. Link to comment
GautiMaan Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 sir jaan and skindia combining forces Link to comment
India-KXIP fan Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Where are u getting these calculations Saurav? :giggle: 5+5=10=BD go through, at best India can get 9 points where Pak go through cause of head to head. India are out, simple as that. Link to comment
Magneto Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Where are u getting these calculations Saurav? :giggle: 5+5=10=BD go through, at best India can get 9 points where Pak go through cause of head to head. India are out, simple as that. I did mention that BD should win only one match with bonus points. If they win both with bonus points, they go through. Link to comment
India-KXIP fan Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I did mention that BD should win only one match with bonus points. If they win both' date=' they go through.[/quote'] Pak already have 9 points though and max India can get is 9. NRR is irrelevant cause of head to head. :fail: theory :hehe: Link to comment
GautiMaan Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Pak already have 9 points though and max India can get is 9. NRR is irrelevant cause of head to head. :fail: theory :hehe: God he's suggesting a 3 way tie between India,Pak and Bang at 9 points how hard is it to understand? Link to comment
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