Muloghonto Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Corrected. Lets wait till they bomb some place. Dude shout pro Iranian and pro Arabia or Pro SriLankan slogan no body gives a damn. But you also know the reason as to why these guys are shouting Anti Indian slogan in the mid of Indian state. They are asking a question, "We will do this, what can you guys do?" There are two ways to deal with them, one go to them say "No No we are also good people please don't do this" the other way is put a big stick inside their azz and ask them will you do again? Most of the time with these real Zahils the second way should work. hhuaneh is right. How can you prosecute or even think of messing with people, when all they are doing is showing support for a sports team ? It doesnt matter if the sports team is from their enemies. I doubt even in China you get this kind of malign for supporting the Japanese soccer team over the Chinese. Heck, even in the 80s cold war days, you didnt get arrested in USA for saying you support the Soviet team in any sport. This is as crazy as saying that you should be arrested for showing support for ManU coz I am a Liverpool fan. You may find supporting Paki team for Indians to be obnoxious. I do too. But being obnoxious is not a criminal offence and all these sedition charges are proving, is that people who are charging them with it are far bigger extremists and making a joke of the legal system than these misguided fans.
Muloghonto Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 @ Muloghonto Sorry RSS might be religious extremists' date=' but they don't fund IM or SIMI to make bombs as those Islamic NGO's do.[/quote'] No, they just jump on any anti-hindu issue to instigate people to go kill muslims. Like Mumbai after 92 blasts, Gujrat 02, etc. Not to mention, brainwash millions of Indians in a twisted and pro-hindu story of Indian history.
Detonator Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 hhuaneh is right. How can you prosecute or even think of messing with people, when all they are doing is showing support for a sports team ? It doesnt matter if the sports team is from their enemies. I doubt even in China you get this kind of malign for supporting the Japanese soccer team over the Chinese. Heck, even in the 80s cold war days, you didnt get arrested in USA for saying you support the Soviet team in any sport. This is as crazy as saying that you should be arrested for showing support for ManU coz I am a Liverpool fan. You may find supporting Paki team for Indians to be obnoxious. I do too. But being obnoxious is not a criminal offence and all these sedition charges are proving, is that people who are charging them with it are far bigger extremists and making a joke of the legal system than these misguided fans. It's not for supporting the cricket team' date=' it's for shouting "Pakistan Zindabad", which could create hostility inside a college campus. The slogan promotes rebellious acts.[/quote'] :hmmm:
CSK Fan Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 So these guys have been charged under sedition charges which carry death penalty. Even actual instigators of riots which cause many to be killed are not booked under sedition
CSK Fan Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 The day when 1.2 Billion people will start expressing their free will, not even god will be able to save few countries of this planet. Please respect the freewill of people of Merrut and the University. Wrong. If we go your way, I will be right to come to your home and beat you up just because I did not agree with your opinion. There is a difference between people indulging in free speech and gundas trampling this under their feet
CSK Fan Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 'Some' Kashmiris' date=' not all. Get it right![/quote'] If it is only some Kashmiris, what are we so afraid of that we book them under sedition charges which carries death penalty?
youngindia Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Another question Maharaja of Kashmir who was never elected whose forefathers bought the land ceded with India now when Mughals were the rulers they could've done the same say they ceded with Turkish Khilafat. Would that have been fair on people of Hindustan? We live in 21st century if ppl of certain region want self governance they have every right to strive for it. Its no excuses that they wont survive among powerful neighbours. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk load of nonsense. first of all,the aspiration of many kashmiri shias and hindus differs from many sunnis in this region.the seperatist movement is largely sunni dominated. since opinion is widely divided along communal lines,talking about "people's will" is laughable. to sell islamism as "free will" is a disgusting fraud. Islamist sunnis want a sunni dominated state on basis of the traditional "state=religion" model and that "they cannot be under a non muslim ruler" .its all about primacy of religion. there is no democracy here.only islamic politcal tradition at work. that is totally not acceptable especially to multi cultural democracies.not to mention non muslim neighbours. this is a problem with the utter failure of islamic world to divorce religion from politics. as long as the virus of communal politics holds sway in the islamic world(especially the on the regions of middle east and south asia),this will be a problem. if a bunch of people cry "we want an islamic state" ," we can only under religious laws" "we cannot be under non muslim ruler", am i supposed to respect that as "free will" ? they are just islamists interested ina religion based state.they have no interest in a democracy these lslamist scum are only asking for a conflict.that's what they are getting you think we are fools ? as for democracy and islamic world, :hysterical:
CSK Fan Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 In college hostels people do all kind of crazy things to piss their rivals off. Of course these students knew this would rile the other guys up. Now morons have made it a nationalistic issue
CSK Fan Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Day by day India is going reverse order in freedom of human rights. From bringing back sedition charges to section 377 to charges under "insulting someone or a religion". A complete banana republic. I don't know what is the worse danger today to India, economic disaster or rise of extremism in all forms
CSK Fan Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 ^how do you know that? Know what? A few college students shouting slogans after a cricket match scares you so much? How insecure are you? Have you ever been to college yourself?
Muloghonto Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 :hmmm: Again, those sedition charges are BS. You don't cause sedition by promoting the image of your enemy. Even in the 80s, you could stand outside the white house and yell 'long live Soviet Union' and not get booked for sedition. Sure, that put you on the FBI radar for monitoring, incase you did anything more and that should be the extent of it. Sedition is actively aiding the enemy of your nation- either by actions that directly harm your nation (eg: being their soldier, agent, revealing critical info to the enemy) or indirectly harm your nation ( eg: being a recruiter for your enemy nation). Simply saying 'long live the enemy' is not seditious.
youngindia Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 So these guys have been charged under sedition charges which carry death penalty. Even actual instigators of riots which cause many to be killed are not booked under sedition you seem to lack basic understanding of politics in the islamic world. there are fundamental differences in the way they think.that's precisely why there is so much conflict with a democratic system. i suggest you read more about the topic.especially about politcal traditions.
Sachin=GOD Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Day by day India is going reverse order in freedom of human rights. From bringing back sedition charges to section 377 to charges under "insulting someone or a religion". A complete banana republic. I don't know what is the worse danger today to India' date=' economic disaster or rise of extremism in all forms[/quote'] +1 and by the looks of things, we are all set to get a BJP Govt which has an even worse record in these matters.
bulbul Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 ^so if some college students shouts slogabs & abuse some religion in hostel will that ok?
Muloghonto Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Day by day India is going reverse order in freedom of human rights. From bringing back sedition charges to section 377 to charges under "insulting someone or a religion". A complete banana republic. I don't know what is the worse danger today to India' date=' economic disaster or rise of extremism in all forms[/quote'] Neitzche said something interesting once: When you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back into you. The value of that quote,is that when we have so many hindu nationalists constantly obsessing about crimes of muslims against their ancestors, it doesnt take long for these nationalistic hindus to display the same mentality they are accusing those muslims of 'aurangzeb's days'. The radicalization of Indian society is an ongoing process and one side you have the abyss ( the jaahils of islam) and the other side you have those who stare into the abyss ( hiunduvta idiots).
Detonator Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 No, they just jump on any anti-hindu issue to instigate people to go kill muslims. Like Mumbai after 92 blasts, Gujrat 02, etc. Not to mention, brainwash millions of Indians in a twisted and pro-hindu story of Indian history. Riot is different from terrorism. Hindus don't kill muslims going for Hajj, like they did in godra. lol at brainwashed pro-hindu story. Pure BS dood. it's pro-islamic story. Muslim invaders murdered people, destroyed temples and build mosques over them. The siva-lingam in Somnath temple was broken into pieces and were pepperd around a mosque so that people can step over it. More than a lakh people were killed. We never read those lot of massacres commited by islam rulers, instead we treat them as heros and name movies after them. Yeah, it gives communal harmony.
Muloghonto Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 you seem to lack basic understanding of politics in the islamic world. there are fundamental differences in the way they think.that's precisely why there is so much conflict with a democratic system. i suggest you read more about the topic.especially about politcal traditions. His comments relate to who is being charged for what in India, not an islamic nation. Your reply to him was irrelevant.
yoda Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Instead of making it an open case like this, they should have put a terror monitoring around these guys to see what else they are up to. I am more concerned about what some these p@ki supporters living India are working on behind the scenes.
Muloghonto Posted March 6, 2014 Posted March 6, 2014 Riot is different from terrorism. Hindus don't kill muslims going for Hajj, like they did in godra. lol at brainwashed pro-hindu story. Pure BS dood. it's pro-islamic story. Muslim invaders murdered people, destroyed temples and build mosques over them. The siva-lingam in Somnath temple was broken into pieces and were pepperd around a mosque so that people can step over it. More than a lakh people were killed. We never read those lot of massacres commited by islam rulers, instead we treat them as heros and name movies after them. Yeah, it gives communal harmony. The hindus did pretty much exactly the same to Buddhists and Jains, though on a lesser scale because hindu rajas were less united against the anastiks (buddhists and jains) than the muslim sultans were against the kaffirs. You don't get to learn that in history either. There is no difference between those who instigate riots and those who instigate terrorism. Both cause bloodshed and death of innocents. And last time i checked, we didn't go around making movies about Aurangzeb or Babur and making them into heroes. But we do make movies about Rajaraja chola, one of the single biggest killers in Indian history on religious basis.
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