zen Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Something seriously wrong. Malaysia is disagreeing with both China Sat images and the US four hours engine report. On debris images, even China is not too sure though. There have been reports about the images being provided by mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roshanrocks Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 On debris images' date=' even China is not too sure though. There have been reports about the images being provided by mistake[/quote'] The info about the flight being caught on radar moving towards the west of malaysia in the direction of Indian ocean... Has atleast this been confirmed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 The info about the flight being caught on radar moving towards the west of malaysia in the direction of Indian ocean... Has atleast this been confirmed? It is confirmed that "a" flight moved in that direction. But military radar cannot confirm if that flight was indeed MH370 .... The military has put out the data for analysis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roshanrocks Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 It is confirmed that "a" flight moved in that direction. But military radar cannot confirm if that flight was indeed MH370 .... The military has put out the data for analysis So basically after nerly 6 days no one knows nothing... only thing we know is direction the plane was travelling and the point at which the plane disappeared... Or is even this un-confirmed...? I saw 2 videos on youtube saying this info is false... some guys uploaded it... most probably another conspiracy theory... cud u check these 2 vids? I dont have volume on my pc and cant hear... what are they saying? :hmmm: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNZtz-HVy6c]Busted! Flight Radar Caught Changing Flight Path of Malaysia Flight 370! - YouTube[/ame] [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7gD6n5EARA]FlightRadar24 MH370 Path Now Different! - YouTube[/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Another turn: Malaysian authorities expanded their search for the missing jetliner into the Andaman Sea and beyond on Thursday after saying it could have flown for several hours after its last contact with the ground. Link Malaysian officials :banghead: .... some many leads but they keep dismissing many, and then say it could be possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I saw 2 videos on youtube saying this info is false... some guys uploaded it... most probably another conspiracy theory... cud u check these 2 vids? I dont have volume on my pc and cant hear... what are they saying? :hmmm: Thanks for the links. I don't have my headphones with me but will try to chk it later .... I need to set a good example in the office :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roshanrocks Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Thanks for the links. I don't have my headphones with me but will try to chk it later .... I need to set a good example in the office :P hehe :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Gotto feel for the Malays. They are clearly not prepared and not equipped to execute this kind of search over a vast sea area (why would they? Why would any govt. spend a few 100 million bucks having equipment and personnel on standby for mid-sea plane crashes likely to happen once every decade?). The very unfortunate truth of the matter is – those 230 odd souls on board are gone, no matter what happens from this point. But there’s this mad scramble for information from the international media all over the world because they like this sort of thing, like as though it is going to make an actual difference to the outcome. This was and still is Malaysian Airlines and Boeing’s problem. It is their plane that disappeared (and almost certainly, crashed into the sea killing all on board). But the nature of these things is such that the govt (and their apparent incompetence) is now the focus of the world’s attention. Nobody is talking about how one of the world’s most modern jets from a premier jet manufacturer can just vanish in the middle of the sea without leaving a single trace. Its like if somebody dropped a needle in my backyard and all of my sudden it is my problem to find it. Hell no, you dropped, you find it. Why are you making me look so bad because I am now burdened with this almost impossible task of finding a microscopic needle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 that still wont save the plane but give reasons for the crash. i am thinking that if there is a strong case and then a possibility to have multiple man made islands / stations in the oceans capable to handle emergency landings...just a thought Lol, you wont give up on this thought will you? :phehehe: Spoiler alert – It is not going to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Gotto feel for the Malays. They are clearly not prepared and not equipped to execute this kind of search over a vast sea area (why would they? Why would any govt. spend a few 100 million bucks having equipment and personnel on standby for mid-sea plane crashes likely to happen once every decade?). The very unfortunate truth of the matter is – those 230 odd souls on board are gone, no matter what happens from this point. But there’s this mad scramble for information from the international media all over the world because they like this sort of thing, like as though it is going to make an actual difference to the outcome. This was and still is Malaysian Airlines and Boeing’s problem. It is their plane that disappeared (and almost certainly, crashed into the sea killing all on board). But the nature of these things is such that the govt (and their apparent incompetence) is now the focus of the world’s attention. Nobody is talking about how one of the world’s most modern jets from a premier jet manufacturer can just vanish in the middle of the sea without leaving a single trace. Its like if somebody dropped a needle in my backyard and all of my sudden it is my problem to find it. Hell no, you dropped, you find it. Why are you making me look so bad because I am now burdened with this almost impossible task of finding a microscopic needle? Don't know what is your point here. Are you saying that this whole search exercise is not needed? I would say even if it is confirmed that all the passengers have died, which unfortunately almost confirmed, still authorities need to find the plane and investigate the matter. Aviation industry needs to find how come one of the safest plane of the world crashed without any apparent reason. No doubt that plane has to be found and matter has to be investigated even if that comes at the exorbitant cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Don't know what is your point here. Are you saying that this whole search exercise is not needed? Even if it is confirmed that all the passengers have died' date=' which unfortunately almost confirmed, then authorities need to find the plane and investigate the matter. Aviation industry needs to find how come one of the safest plane of the world crashed without any apparent reason. No doubt that plane has to be found and matter has to be investigated even if that comes at the exorbitant cost.[/quote'] I am not saying the search exercise as a whole is pointless. But Malaysian govt. could do without all of the relentless media scrutiny and reports of cell phones ringing and engines sending signals and debris found 150 miles away etc. These guys are not equipped to do these kinds of searches. Its like putting someone in a situation where they are guaranteed to fail and them berating them for not succeeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I am not saying the search exercise as a whole is pointless. But Malaysian govt. could do without all of the relentless media scrutiny and reports of cell phones ringing and engines sending signals and debris found 150 miles away etc. These guys are not equipped to do these kinds of searches. Its like putting someone in a situation where they are guaranteed to fail and them berating them for not succeeding. Finding the plane is not anyones responsibility. It is done 1. to ensure it wasnt a terrorist attack or there is a plan for a future terrorist attack. that is why multiple countries 2. to check why it happened and how we can avoid in the future 3. manufacturer and airlines have an added benefit to ensure they still remain in business. Sea zones require diplomatic conversations and that is where the governments step in. Some Govts have stronger surveillance mechanisms. They may not be blamed for the delay in search but they need to take responsibility of what they say and ensure every discrepancy is resolved. They still don come clean on a lot of other issues. Why did the airlines not subscribe to Boeing for the 30 min pinging data. The plane might have landed safely today or at least we would have known the location. The govt should have made it mandatory. Why did they not check passport with the interpol database? also calling some baba to do some searching of the plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Updates: MH370 searchers raise new questions over foul play as U.S. investigators treat disappearance as case of air piracy Aviation specialists investigating last week’s loss of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 say evidence gathered so far suggests the plane veered off its path toward Beijing and travelled west over Malaysia toward the Andaman Sea, beyond the detection limits of the country’s radars, according to the people, who asked not to be identified because the probe is active. ABC News, citing a senior Pentagon official, said the plane may have crashed into the Indian Ocean. With no evidence of a mechanical failure or pilot error, U.S. investigators are treating the disappearance as a case of air piracy, though it remains unclear by whom, one person said. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 With the search being refocused on west of Malaysia, it appears as if the US may be thinking that Diego Garcia could have been a potential target :hmmm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Dont know how to make sense of the news. US said plane flew for 4 hours. Malaysia denied but both are searching in the Indian ocean. US is sending USS Kidd there. Malaysia has requested India. For 5 days Malaysia was silent on ACARS data, only yesterday they opened up. Now someone on ABC news is saying US officials confirm that the transponder and all communication was manually shut off and there wasn't any accident or explosion. I always though Chinese were free of Islamic terrorism but some Ughyur has been questioned. Something needs to be definitely found. too much speculation around. that needs to end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 The amount of resources deployed to search for the wreck (if it even exists) could probably feed an (or 10) african nation for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 The amount of resources deployed to search for the wreck (if it even exists) could probably feed an (or 10) african nation for a year. To be fair, the cost of equipment and personal is already invested in (sunk cost, for e.g. govt. pays salary whether the guys search or sleep on their vessels). Major cost probably is incremental use of fuel and other consumables related to the SAR mission :winky: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Dont know how to make sense of the news. US said plane flew for 4 hours. Malaysia denied but both are searching in the Indian ocean. US is sending USS Kidd there. Malaysia has requested India. For 5 days Malaysia was silent on ACARS data, only yesterday they opened up. Now someone on ABC news is saying US officials confirm that the transponder and all communication was manually shut off and there wasn't any accident or explosion. I always though Chinese were free of Islamic terrorism but some Ughyur has been questioned. Something needs to be definitely found. too much speculation around. that needs to end Yeah, in a situation like this there will always be a lot of brainstorming (or speculation) with position changing as additional info becomes available. The tricky part is segregating useful information. However, it is also necessary to not discard information quickly, which is something the Malaysian govt. may have done on occasions On Islamic terrorism, well not many have the energy, time and stupidity to consider such a mammoth operation (esp. if Diego Garcia was on the menu). So it will be one of the suspects in such cases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 The amount of resources deployed to search for the wreck (if it even exists) could probably feed an (or 10) african nation for a year. Wish the Airlines had subscribed to the Boeing Data and even Rolls Royce data. Think they should make it compulsory for all airlines post this. Don't remember the exact figures but it is not very expensive. Plus they should strongly verify passports. No excuses on that front. Some airlines do this by taking passport numbers a week in advance of travel date. I read this on another forum. Not sure if it is possible. All airlines should have rags of dye which spreads on a crash in the ocean. easy to track if it spreads in the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 One of those instances where I am praying it was a hijack ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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