Raghav_12 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 It is confirmed now that US is going to search plane in Indian Ocean. They have sent a ship there already. But searching for a ship in Indian Ocean without a clue about location has to be joke. Proverb needle in haystack will fall well short of capturing the impossibility of the task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Wish the Airlines had subscribed to the Boeing Data and even Rolls Royce data. Think they should make it compulsory for all airlines post this. Don't remember the exact figures but it is not very expensive. True, that would have helped get more details. However, the engine did send out the pings 5 times (one every hour, I believe) w/o enough details to imply that the plane flew for 5 hours (4 hrs after it lost) One of those instances where I am praying it was a hijack ! Let's assume that the plane was hijacked. Things in fact went smoothly for the hijackers - they fooled the civil radars, caught the Malaysian military napping, and avoided major military radar zones of other countries. So what would have brought about a crash (again assuming that the plane would pings if it were flying or active, unless it is totally grounded and unable to send pings) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I think fact that plane was in air long after it was lost on radar is well established now. US wouldn't have sent ship to Indian Ocean without such information and without having a reliable information on the location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Day 6 summary: US officials declined to reveal the location of the last ever transmission sent by flight 370 and admitted they do not know why they stopped. However, the U.S. is currently moving surveillance planes to an area of the Indian Ocean 1,000 miles or more west of Malaysian capital Kuala Lumpur. LINK Was it headed towards Diego Garcia, the US Naval Base in the Indian Ocean?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 True, that would have helped get more details. However, the engine did send out the pings 5 times (one every hour, I believe) w/o enough details to imply that the plane flew for 5 hours (4 hrs after it lost) Let's assume that the plane was hijacked. Things in fact went smoothly for the hijackers - they fooled the civil radars, caught the Malaysian military napping, and avoided major military radar zones of other countries. So what would have brought about a crash (again assuming that the plane would pings if it were flying or active, unless it is totally grounded and unable to send pings) Signals can be jammed. Possible reasons for a crash would be - Wrong fuel calculations Passengers or crews reaction Again guesses. But this needs closure soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I think fact that plane was in air long after it was lost on radar is well established now. US wouldn't have sent ship to Indian Ocean without such information and without having a reliable information on the location. If Malaysia trusts this information, then they should send all search ships and aircraft to the Indian Ocean. That is not happening. Malaysia is yet to believe that plane flew for 4 hours. If it really is in the Indian Ocean, it will be more than a miracle to find that plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Signals can be jammed. Possible reasons for a crash would be - Wrong fuel calculations Passengers or crews reaction Again guesses. But this needs closure soon. Or may be someone decided to back out of the assignment (developed cold feet?) at the last moment Hoping that by the end of weekend, we are able to get some concrete pointers Goodnight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roshanrocks Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 US student's theory on Malaysian jet goes viral An undergraduate from Stanford University, California has come up with a new theory on the missing Beijing-bound Malaysia Airlines plane which has gone viral on the internet. Andrew Aude, 20, a student of computer science, in his Tumblr post mentioned a 2013 US Federal Aviation Authority (FAA) Airworthiness Directive for the Boeing 777, the aircraft that was operating the Malaysian Airlines flight MH370, which spotted a weakness in the plane, The Strait Times reported Wednesday. The directive, which he quoted on his post, said there had been a report of "cracking in the fuselage skin underneath the satellite communication (satcom) antenna adapter". Based on this directive, he told the Singapore daily that he theorised the missing MH370 might have experienced the same issue leading to a breakdown in all satellite communications. The aircraft also might have experienced a slow decompression leaving the passengers unconscious and pilots disoriented leading to their failure to put on the oxygen masks until it was too late. He also said that the Boeing 777 does not deploy the oxygen masks until it reaches an altitude of 13,500 feet. As it was a late night flight, the passengers would already have been sleeping and did not realise the oxygen deprivation. He added that the autopilot function would have ensured that the plane maintained its course and altitude before crashing into the East China Sea, Pacific Ocean or the Sea of Japan. All these are miles away from the South China sea where the search for the missing plane is being conducted. He concluded his theory by saying that "this was likely not an explosive decompression or in-flight disintegration". Aude also wrote: "After discovering the United States' Federal Aviation Administration's (FAA) Airworthiness Directive on Professional Pilots Rumour Network (aviation website for airline pilots and aviation buffs PPRUNE) forums. In the same forum, I discovered how some of the 777’s radar systems depend on satcom and GPS. I considered these facts alongside the mobile phones ringing and the mumbling pilots, and I had come up with the proposed explanation." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 US student's theory on Malaysian jet goes viral An undergraduate from Stanford University, California has come up with a new theory on the missing Beijing-bound Malaysia Airlines plane which has gone viral on the internet. Andrew Aude, 20, a student of computer science, in his Tumblr post mentioned a 2013 US Federal Aviation Authority (FAA) Airworthiness Directive for the Boeing 777, the aircraft that was operating the Malaysian Airlines flight MH370, which spotted a weakness in the plane, The Strait Times reported Wednesday. The directive, which he quoted on his post, said there had been a report of "cracking in the fuselage skin underneath the satellite communication (satcom) antenna adapter". Based on this directive, he told the Singapore daily that he theorised the missing MH370 might have experienced the same issue leading to a breakdown in all satellite communications. The aircraft also might have experienced a slow decompression leaving the passengers unconscious and pilots disoriented leading to their failure to put on the oxygen masks until it was too late. He also said that the Boeing 777 does not deploy the oxygen masks until it reaches an altitude of 13,500 feet. As it was a late night flight, the passengers would already have been sleeping and did not realise the oxygen deprivation. He added that the autopilot function would have ensured that the plane maintained its course and altitude before crashing into the East China Sea, Pacific Ocean or the Sea of Japan. All these are miles away from the South China sea where the search for the missing plane is being conducted. He concluded his theory by saying that "this was likely not an explosive decompression or in-flight disintegration". Aude also wrote: "After discovering the United States' Federal Aviation Administration's (FAA) Airworthiness Directive on Professional Pilots Rumour Network (aviation website for airline pilots and aviation buffs PPRUNE) forums. In the same forum, I discovered how some of the 777’s radar systems depend on satcom and GPS. I considered these facts alongside the mobile phones ringing and the mumbling pilots, and I had come up with the proposed explanation." this has been discussed extensively on the net and Boeing has clarified that this flight did not carry that antenna.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roshanrocks Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 yea... and if the plane did manage to divert its path to the west, then that would mean the pilots didnt lose their consciousness.. and they would have enough training to put on ther masks if they suspected decompression... hmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haarkarjeetgaye Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 that oil rigger who claimed he saw the plane go up in flames. that story has vanished. His e mail was floating all around the web Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roshanrocks Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 that oil rigger who claimed he saw the plane go up in flames. that story has vanished. His e mail was floating all around the web Did that oil rigger vanish too? :hmmm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Did that oil rigger vanish too? :hmmm: lol.. No but people staying in sea for long start seeing things. He might have seen some shooting star of something. It was not very reliable source unless corroborated by other accounts or sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuge Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 lol.. No but people staying in sea for long start seeing things. He might have seen some shooting star of something. It was not very reliable source unless corroborated by other accounts or sources. common shooting stars looks like shooting star its doesn't look like plane headlight . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 common shooting stars looks like shooting star its doesn't look like plane headlight . Yeah..I understand that and was more than enough lenient in suggesting that. However my point was in sea you may see confusing blurred images on horizon, specially if you have been in water for long. If it was something in very close proximity to him, it would have been much more credible. He saw something at distant which he might have misunderstood with something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuge Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I believe, they will get clue where it is in the next two days . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSK Fan Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 If Malaysia trusts this information, then they should send all search ships and aircraft to the Indian Ocean. That is not happening. Malaysia is yet to believe that plane flew for 4 hours. If it really is in the Indian Ocean, it will be more than a miracle to find that plane. They seem to be changing their opinion now http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/14/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 USS Kidd, a destroyer from the U.S. Pacific Fleet, is being moved into the Indian Ocean to begin searching that area at the request of the Malaysian government, Marks said. -- Tracking the pings: Malaysian authorities believe they have several "pings" from the airliner's service data system, known as ACARS, transmitted to satellites in the four to five hours after the last transponder signal, suggesting the plane flew to the Indian Ocean, a senior U.S. official told CNN. That information combined with known radar data and knowledge of fuel range leads officials to believe the plane may have made as far as the Indian ocean, which is in the opposite direction of the plane's original route, from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. -- Why Indian Ocean?: Analysts from U.S. intelligence, the Federal Aviation Administration and National Transportation Safety Board have been scouring satellite feeds and, after ascertaining no other flights' transponder data corresponded to the pings, came to the conclusion that they were likely to have come from the missing Malaysian plane, the senior U.S. official said. "There is probably a significant likelihood" that the aircraft is now on the bottom of the Indian Ocean, the official said, citing information Malaysia has shared with the United States. Indian search teams are combing large areas of the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, a remote archipelago in the northeast Indian Ocean. Two aircraft are searching land and coastal areas of the island chain from north to south, an Indian military spokesman said Friday, and two coastguard ships have been diverted to search along the islands east coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Why would they divert so much from course .It looks like hijacking to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Why would they divert so much from course .It looks like hijacking to me. yes.. that seems most likely case at this point. question is whether with connivance of pilots or not, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Too much drama around this. Feel for the families they are getting some random information every hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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