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MS Dhoni guilty of corrupt conduct, gave false statement in IPL case: prosecution


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That is all very subjective, involved in cricketing affairs or not. Relevant questions are these: 1. Does he own any or part of the franchise to declare him an owner? 2. Did he have any official contract/employment letter which made him an employee/part of management? 3. Was he paid by the them? 4. Was he just volunteering and making himself available everywhere whenever he felt like it?
G.m himself said he exchanged team sheets before match and was involved in cricketing affairs in interview to hindu business line ,We do not even need to go to ownership.
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Read the mudgal report.
Nothing in the link you posted about Dhoni being asked questions. All references to Dhoni is in the context of the wild fixing speculation and Meyappan's betting based on how much he thought CSK will score.
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G.m himself said he exchanged team sheets before match and was involved in cricketing affairs in interview to hindu business line ' date='We do not even need to go to ownership.[/quote'] Exchange with whom? With the person "in charge of cricketing affairs" from the other team? :giggle:
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Exchange with whom? With the person "in charge of cricketing affairs" from the other team? :giggle:
:giggle: betting mafia.
It is worth remembering that in a 2011 interview with the Hindu Business Line, Meiyappan said the following: “Before every game, Dhoni, Fleming and I exchange our elevens at 5.45 p.m. (for the night matches).” And this: “Fleming and I spent countless hours in the lead-up to the auction. In the last three days, we conducted mock auctions, picked around 45 different combinations.” That certainly sounds like Meiyappan had a lot to do with the cricketing affairs of CSK. It suggests either Dhoni or Meiyappan was not telling the whole truth about the nature of the latter's association with the team. The facts would suggest it is Meiyappan who is telling the truth, not Dhoni.
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OK, I read that. So what was his official title? Still not clear to me. Only thing clear is that he was indeed a cricket enthusiast. :winky:
There is a big difference between a cricket enthusiast and "just" a cricket enthusiast. :winky: Also it may not be clear to you but the Mudgal committee concluded in clear terms that Meiyappan was the team owner/team principal of CSK. There are no two ways about that.
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First of all we don't know if they were under any form of duress. Secondly if Dhoni was under duress he should come forward and say so. There may not be enough evidence to land him in trouble in this case but as a cricket fan I can't trust him now. I hope that he's not involved in any corruption as it will be a big blow to Indian cricket in general.
I am not contesting he lied under oath which is a grievous mistake. I said 'hopefully' whatever he said was under duress. My trust in him, is on him not fixing or betting on matches.
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There is a big difference between a cricket enthusiast and "just" a cricket enthusiast. :winky: Also it may not be clear to you but the Mudgal committee concluded in clear terms that Meiyappan was the team owner/team principal of CSK. There are no two ways about that.
What is the evidence that he was a team owner? Does he have direct ownership stake in the franchise? If so what percentage? What does the term team principal mean? I am hearing the term team principal only in the context of this situation. Does it mean someone who is like top management CEO, CFO, ...? If so what was Meyappan's official title? Surely it can't be something as vague as team principal.
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What is the evidence that he was a team owner? Does he have direct ownership stake in the franchise? If so what percentage? What does the term team principal mean? I am hearing the term team principal only in the context of this situation. Does it mean someone who is like top management CEO, CFO, ...? If so what was Meyappan's official title? Surely it can't be something as vague as team principal.
Why do you need evidence? This is the conclusion of a supreme court appointed committee. I am sure they have gone through everything before forming that conclusion. Or you don't trust it?
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Why do you need evidence? This is the conclusion of a supreme court appointed committee. I am sure they have gone through everything before forming that conclusion. Or you don't trust it?
Cause evidence is what separates fact from fiction. All I want to know is what was Meyappan's official title/job description? Also, interested in knowing if he has an ownership stake and if so what %.
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Cause evidence is what separates fact from fiction.
You are not the one with any kind of authority to separate facts from fiction here. If you don't trust the findings of the committee which concludes the role of Meiyappan in no uncertain terms, that's your problem. The legal system of the country is going to take it seriously. That's what matters in the end, not some random yoda on the internet.
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All I want to know is what was Meyappan's official title/job description? Also, interested in knowing if he has an ownership stake and if so what %.
Read the report. It is very clear about his role in CSK.
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You are not the one with any kind of authority to separate facts from fiction here. If you don't trust the findings of the committee which concludes the role of Meiyappan in no uncertain terms' date=' that's your problem. The legal system of the country is going to take it seriously. That's what matters in the end, not some random yoda on the internet.[/quote'] Dude, Supreme Court is the ultimate authority, we all know that and we all respect that. That doesn't mean one never questions their decision or the evidence presented before them.
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Read the report. It is very clear about his role in CSK.
Since it is very clear to you, why don't you tell me. You said he is a team owner, so what percent of the team does he own?
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Since it is very clear to you' date=' why don't you tell me. You said he is a team owner, so what percent of the team does he own?[/quote'] There is no mention of that in the report if I remember correctly. Regardless, it was concluded that Meiyappan was not just an enthusiast as Dhoni and others claimed. He regularly took part in team affairs in the capacity of the team owner.

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