Muloghonto Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 So it was US who effed up in persuading wrong enemy but the consequences are being paid by innocent Pakistan. Sad to see Pakistan paying for fighting someone else war. Pakistan is paying for the monsters its created with its jihadist program. Not because of messing with Afghanistan.
CSK Fan Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 So it was US who effed up in persuading wrong enemy but the consequences are being paid by innocent Pakistan. Sad to see Pakistan paying for fighting someone else war. Keep on believing that. When the same jihadis nurtured by ISI were prevented to go into Afghanistan, they turned inwards. you have no problem when the same jihadis spill blood in Afghanistan and India, in fact you actively protect and give shelter to the masterminds of such attacks but have problems when they do the same in Pakistan?
gs Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 So it was US who effed up in persuading wrong enemy but the consequences are being paid by innocent Pakistan. Sad to see Pakistan paying for fighting someone else war. Nice one! :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:
Desi Cartman Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 So it was US who effed up in persuading wrong enemy but the consequences are being paid by innocent Pakistan. Sad to see Pakistan paying for fighting someone else war.
Iconoclast Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Anyway back to topic of this thread ... this women is deluded ... neither the Taliban (who cannot even point out America on a map nevertheless have any capacity to attack it ... nor Pakistan is America's enemy ... we may have conflicting interests on who should be in charge in Afghanistan but that does not make us enemies.
Sajid_Rana Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Pakistan is paying for the monsters its created with its jihadist program. Not because of messing with Afghanistan. What monsters? Every country secretly run a jihadist program to safe guard their interests and keep aggressive neighbors in check. Those who don't end up like prisoners in their own country like Palestine. BTW, where were all these monsters which Pakistan created before the so called war on terror after 9-11?
Midfielder Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 What monsters? Every country secretly run a jihadist program to safe guard their interests and keep aggressive neighbors in check. Those who don't end up like prisoners in their own country like Palestine. BTW' date=' where were all these monsters which Pakistan created before the so called war on terror after 9-11?[/quote'] The monster was created by Zia Ul Haq. He wanted a backward Islamic society and got one. You lie down with dogs you get up with fleas. Not very difficult.
Midfielder Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Indian need to be caution of pakistan, They are liars.
Desi Cartman Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 What monsters? Every country secretly run a jihadist program to safe guard their interests and keep aggressive neighbors in check. Those who don't end up like prisoners in their own country like Palestine. BTW' date=' where were all these monsters which Pakistan created before the so called war on terror after 9-11?[/quote'] I bet you also believe that 9-11 and Mumbai attacks were dramas staged by the countries .. hai na ?
Muloghonto Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 What monsters? Every country secretly run a jihadist program to safe guard their interests and keep aggressive neighbors in check. Those who don't end up like prisoners in their own country like Palestine. BTW' date=' where were all these monsters which Pakistan created before the so called war on terror after 9-11?[/quote'] Last I checked, india or china or eu nations do not train religious extremists to blow stuff up in the neighbour nations. Your failed state does. Sent from my GT-S5830D using Tapatalk 2
gs Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 What monsters? Every country secretly run a jihadist program to safe guard their interests and keep aggressive neighbors in check. Those who don't end up like prisoners in their own country like Palestine. BTW' date= where were all these monsters which Pakistan created before the so called war on terror after 9-11? Only Pakistan does that. The jihadi factory of the world!! They were in Afghanistan and Kashmir fighting the non believers and idol worshipers.
panther Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Zia ul haq shaheed, if Pak did not get nukes, today India would not be so quiet and stuck to covert operations against pak through proxies. They killed zia because he wanted to implement shariah.
CSK Fan Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 What monsters? Every country secretly run a jihadist program to safe guard their interests and keep aggressive neighbors in check. Those who don't end up like prisoners in their own country like Palestine. BTW' date=' where were all these monsters which Pakistan created before the so called war on terror after 9-11?[/quote'] That every country in the world runs a secret jihadi program is the biggest propaganda run by the ISI which unfortunately even educated Pakistanis are fooled by. And one cannot blame them as they are used to power and money. But one can blame Pakistani citizens/non-residents for never questioning this propaganda. The fear of India taking over is the biggest hawwa spread b y your ISI to keep it's power growing when India has never shown to been the aggressor in one single case and even after huge incidents like 26/11 behaved responsibly. Which other country in the world proudly gives a hiding place to people like Osama, Dawood, Saeed Hafeez? Only the people who want to be deluded will keep on believing that in today's age having jihadi, barbaric fighters is good for the nation and that everyone else have bloods on their hands
panther Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 That every country in the world runs a secret jihadi program is the biggest propaganda run by the ISI which unfortunately even educated Pakistanis are fooled by. And one cannot blame them as they are used to power and money. But one can blame Pakistani citizens/non-residents for never questioning this propaganda. The fear of India taking over is the biggest hawwa spread b y your ISI to keep it's power growing when India has never shown to been the aggressor in one single case and even after huge incidents like 26/11 behaved responsibly. Which other country in the world proudly gives a hiding place to people like Osama, Dawood, Saeed Hafeez? Only the people who want to be deluded will keep on believing that in today's age having jihadi, barbaric fighters is good for the nation and that everyone else have bloods on their hands India trains jihadis to safeguard kashmir only to call them jawans, these guys are not jihadis they are the same people who have given pakistan 1/3 of kashmir, successfully defended their land against the godless communist and have done so again against the godless capitalist.
CSK Fan Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Zia ul haq shaheed, if Pak did not get nukes, today India would not be so quiet and stuck to covert operations against pak through proxies. They killed zia because he wanted to implement shariah. Yes, show me a single proof where your country has gone to the UN, to the world, to the media with India proxy war? The world has enough proof and admitted clearly that Pakistan was involved in lots of proxy wars Where are the Indian versions of Hafeez Saeed? Pakistan is the only country in the world were such mass killers roam freely and are respected. Where is the Indian terrorist leaders? What is really sad is supposedly educated and intelligent Pakistanis like you do not have the common sense to even question this ISI propaganda that India is involved in proxy war, when it is clear that this information is to just feed the local Pakistani public. Neither the Pak government, nor army has even tried to take this information to the world media and the UN. Doesn't this show anything to you? You are a victim of your own army and ISI who want to keep the fear of India alive to mint money and stay powerful. Keep on believing the propaganda when India was never the aggressor in one single case. India only wants to avoid violence in it's own country, there is not a single thing in Pakistan which will interest it, nor will an unstable Pakistan help it's cause. If you don't buy more weapons and give us power, enemy will attack is the most common line used by rogue media in banana republics to keep their power. But if you rather be deluded, more power to you
CSK Fan Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 India trains jihadis to safeguard kashmir only to call them jawans' date=' these guys are not jihadis they are the same people who have given pakistan 1/3 of kashmir, successfully defended their land against the godless communist and have done so again against the godless capitalist.[/quote'] So now from Pakistan, you have moved on to Kashmir. a separate state, which had nothing to do with Pakistan in the first place? No wonder the nation is currently in such a mess, when the pride of owning Kashmir, when you cannot even manage existing land, is more important than looking at how to improve and develop the nation in the first place. Kashmiris might have their problems but most of them are better off than some areas of your own country. Is the price of being the saviour's of Kashmir so important to you? Why? Why not use that money and resources to help your own country? Why get in a pissing fight with a bigger nation just for false pride? How will it help in you anyway?
panther Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Hafeez saeed as far as i know is a charity worker, he calls for jihad in kashmir, so what he's to fat to fight himself so calls on others to do it, what's wrong with his freedom of speech in secular pakistan?. There are two types of jihad in Islam either offensive to free a people from oppression or defensive, Kashmiris are oppressed so Islamically hafeez saeed is embracing the weakest of jihads to speak out against any wrong when one see's it.
panther Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 I am no army lover I know that these clean shaven general like musharraf and others have betrayed Islam, but there are others As well who do not have a price and are struggling to keep the nation together.
Crookbond Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 The organization run by Hafeez Saeed - Jama'at-ud-Da'wah and is banned as a terrorist organization in the US, UK, EU, Russia and Australia. What a charitable organization! US had put a 10M$ bounty on him for his role in the 2008 terror attacks. Saeed's house is manned by his supporters and and Pakistan police. Clear indication of how terrorists are welcome in Pakistan and actively/openly protected by the state.
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